Salinas Throws?

[mike renfro]

Anyone know if the meet is actually today? I checked on sfgate.com, but found nothing. If it is today, that site will probably have something. Crumpacker usually goes (at least he been at all the meets I have attended).

[gh]

Two meets this year; one today, one tomorrow (Thursday).

[mike renfro]

Is the link Jon again?

[AS]

Is Kanter expected to throw?

No word on result(s) from his website yet if he is:

http://www.team75plus.com/248

[Athleticsimaging]

Results courtesy of The Ring.

Gary Shaw Big Throwers Classic
Hartnell College, Salinas, CA
May 16, 2007

Official Results

Women's Discus competition
1. Breisch, Becky, High Performance, 62.99m
2. Trafton, Stephanie, Unattached, 58.43m
3. Barnes, Cecilia, Unattached, 58.18m
4. Varner, Rachel, Unattached, 56.72m
5. Hutchinson, Kate, Unattached, 56.46m
6. Tunks, Leija, Asics, 55.59m
7. Gleeson, Kim, Unattached, 51.18m
8. Hess, Annie, Oregon Throwers Academy, 49.52m
9. Ciarelli, Katelyn, Unattached, 48.47m
10. Tripp, Katherine, Oregon Throwers Academy, 45.88m

Men's Discus competition: "A" section
1. Rome, Jarred, Nike, 66.93m
2. Gowda, Vikas, India, 63.99m
3. Arrhenius, Niklas, BYU/Sweden, 63.43m
4. Kuehl, Adam, Arizona, 63.12m
5. Tunks, Jason, Asics, 62.04m
6. Robertson, Michael, Unattached, 61.54m
7. Petrucci, Nick, Unattached, 58.13m

Men's Discus competition: "B" section
1. Conwell, William, Unattached, 63.61m
2. Schaerer, Daniel, Unattached, 61.45m
3. Dennis, James, Unattached, 60.84m
4. Sullivan, Luke, Unattached, 58.10m
5. Lightbody, Sam, VS Athletics TC, 56.49m
6. Ringquist, Pete, Pac Bay TC, 56.30m

Men's Discus competition: Master's section
1. Fahey, Tom, Unattached, 50.88m

[tafnut]

1. Rome, Jarred, Nike, 66.93m

= 219-7 (how much wind?)

[tandfman]

You want that measured and quantified? :roll:

[tafnut]

You want that measured and quantified? :roll:

when Ricky B was bombing out his big throws in Malmo, or Silvester, Powell, and Wilkins were riding big winds at Antelope Valley, weren't you interested in whether they were wa or not? A 220' throw in a still stadium is MUCH (!) more impressive than a 232' throw out in some field with gale winds whipping through. Is it not legit to ask how MUCH wind was in Salinas?

[tandfman]

Sure, but how would Athleticsimaging know if he wasn't there?

Anyway, isn't Salinas supposed to be one of those places (like Antelope Valley or that place in Maui) where there's almost always a favorable wind?

[gh]

You want that measured and quantified? :roll:

when Ricky B was bombing out his big throws in Malmo, or Silvester, Powell, and Wilkins were riding big winds at Antelope Valley, weren't you interested in whether they were wa or not? A 220' throw in a still stadium is MUCH (!) more impressive than a 232' throw out in some field with gale winds whipping through. Is it not legit to ask how MUCH wind was in Salinas?

I don't believe Powell or Wilkins ever threw in Antelope Valley. Doubt that Silvester did more than twice.

[gh]

Sure, but how would Athleticsimaging know if he wasn't there?

Anyway, isn't Salinas supposed to be one of those places (like Antelope Valley or that place in Maui) where there's almost always a favorable wind?

The great discus sites are great precisely because the wind is dependable. Not so great if you live there, but nice for itinerant discophiles.

[26mi235]

Sure, but how would Athleticsimaging know if he wasn't there?

Anyway, isn't Salinas supposed to be one of those places (like Antelope Valley or that place in Maui) where there's almost always a favorable wind?

The great discus sites are great precisely because the wind is dependable. Not so great if you live there, but nice for itinerant discophiles.

So why don't they throw in Wyoming? Does altitude take a toll? Never been anywhere with more consistent wind the in Wyoming, although I never really stopped in west Texas.

[tafnut]

Doubt that Silvester did more than twice.

70.38 (230-11) Jay Silvester 1971

I guess it really only took one trip.

[gh]

[quote="26mi235"...So why don't they throw in Wyoming? Does altitude take a toll? Never been anywhere with more consistent wind the in Wyoming, although I never really stopped in west Texas.[/quote]

Obvious answer is that it takes two components for big discus throwing: big wind and big discus throwers. The logistics of a competition in Wyoming are just a little different than, say, near the LA or SF airports (relatively speaking).

Note also that when I say "consistent" wind, I don't mean just that it's blowing, but that it's blowing from (about) the same direction. When you're near the ocean and/or in a flatter area, you can count on the wind vector not varying all that much. I would guess that in a mountainous area, far from the sea, you can get swirling winds of all sorts, which might prohibit you from pouring a ring that's facing the right way to begin with, and then in a micro-climate sense, being betrayed every 15 minutes on a daily basis anyway.

Long piece about DT throwers and the wind in the currently-at-the-printers June issue.

[26mi235]

Wyoming is high, but not mountainous in a Sierra Nevada way. My impression was that there was a pretty good directional component to the wind. I know that the existence of people, or lack thereof, is the issue in Wyoming.