T&FN In Jeopardy!!!

[gh]

No, wait, I meant to say ON "Jeopardy." (the other way got your attention though, didn't it?)

I don't watch the show, but a correspondent says there was a t&f section the other night, and one of the answers was something like:

<<The nation of Haile Gebrselassie, named Track & Field News best athlete for 1995 and 1998.>>

[Guest]

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What is Kenya?! . . .BZZZZZZZZZZ!

[dj]

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I'm sure the answerwas the Daily Double, to which the contestant must have responded, "But Geb never doubles!" :-)

[Guest]

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That "What is Kenya" response suggests that I would do poorly in the Jeopardy competition because I would have connected Haile Gebrselassie with "Ethiopia."

[Guest]

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Gary, I really hope you are right (T&FN ON Jeopardy and not IN jeopardy) but such a subscriptions drop (less 25% in 3 years) may cause some doubts.
If American fans ar no more interested in athletics, why not set out for European ones?
After all you may find 20/40,000 spectators only in European meetings (Brussels, Zurich, London, Rome, Berlin).
Anyhow, good luck to the world's very best t&f magazine!

[Jon]

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>Gary, I really hope you are right (T&FN ON
>Jeopardy and not IN jeopardy) but such a
>subscriptions drop (less 25% in 3 years) may
>cause some doubts.
If American fans ar no more
>interested in athletics, why not set out for
>European ones?
After all you may find 20/40,000
>spectators only in European meetings (Brussels,
>Zurich, London, Rome, Berlin).
Anyhow, good luck
>to the world's very best t&f magazine!



Athletics Weekly is my fave T&F magazine, but I digress...

I think it is about time TFN started lobbying for European subscribers. Athletics is much more popular in Europe than it is in the USA. Plus, many people from European countries look up to the USA; couple that with the fact that the majority of Europeans can read English too.

The internet is the perfect tool to capitalise on the European market. I know that TFN probably do deliver to European countries, but that fact isn't very well promoted. Maybe start with some kind of introductory offer, to generate interest, and then work on it from there.

TFN is one of the most respected athletics publications around and a lot of track fans refer to the TFN annual world rankings fairly regularly. Of course, you may have to start publishing the results section in metres instead of feet and inches (something which is well overdue anyway IMHO). Surely it'd be much easier for the results people too, as the results they collate would be in metres, and they'd save their time if they didn't have to convert the data to imperial measurements.

I dunno... just some suggestions!

[Guest]

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>>Gary, I really hope you are right (T&FN
>ON
>Jeopardy and not IN jeopardy) but such
>a
>subscriptions drop (less 25% in 3 years)
>may
>cause some doubts.
If American fans ar no
>more
>interested in athletics, why not set out
>for
>European ones?
After all you may find
>20/40,000
>spectators only in European meetings
>(Brussels,
>Zurich, London, Rome,
>Berlin).
Anyhow, good luck
>to the world's very
>best t&f magazine!



Athletics Weekly is my
>fave T&F magazine, but I digress...

I think it
>is about time TFN started lobbying for European
>subscribers. Athletics is much more popular in
>Europe than it is in the USA. Plus, many people
>from European countries look up to the USA;
>couple that with the fact that the majority of
>Europeans can read English too.

The internet
>is the perfect tool to capitalise on the European
>market. I know that TFN probably do deliver to
>European countries, but that fact isn't very well
>promoted. Maybe start with some kind of
>introductory offer, to generate interest, and
>then work on it from there.

TFN is one of the
>most respected athletics publications around and
>a lot of track fans refer to the TFN annual world
>rankings fairly regularly. Of course, you may
>have to start publishing the results section in
>metres instead of feet and inches (something
>which is well overdue anyway IMHO). Surely it'd
>be much easier for the results people too, as the
>results they collate would be in metres, and
>they'd save their time if they didn't have to
>convert the data to imperial measurements.

I
>dunno... just some suggestions!

[Guest]

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I think it is about time TFN started lobbying for
European subscribers. Athletics is much more
>popular in >Europe than it is in the USA. Plus,
>many people >from European countries look up to >the USA; >couple that with the fact that the
>majority of >Europeans can read English
>too.

The internet >is the perfect tool to
>capitalise on the European >market. I know that
>TFN probably do deliver to >European countries,
>but that fact isn't very well >promoted. Maybe
>start with some kind of >introductory offer, tp
>generate interest, and >then work on it from
>there.

TFN is one of the >most respected >athletics publications around and >a lot of
>track fans refer to the TFN annual >world
>rankings fairly regularly. Of course, you
>may >have to start publishing the results
>section in >metres instead of feet and inches
>(something >which is well overdue anyway IMHO).
>Surely it'd >be much easier for the results
>people too, as the >results they collate would
>be in metres, and >they'd save their time if
>they didn't have to >convert the data to
>imperial measurements.

I >dunno... just some >suggestions!

And don't forget the non Americans track nuts living in USA. A little bit more news from abroad please....

[michael lewis]

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"Gary, I really hope you are right (T&FN ON Jeopardy and not IN jeopardy) but such a subscriptions drop (less 25% in 3 years) may cause some doubts."

I subscribed for years then started buying at a runner's store. I am going to be renewing my subscription soon as a gesture of support, although I am curious about a few things. Has the drop in subscriptions been accompanied by a drop or rise (or neither) in non-subscription sales? Does TFN feel that the internet has accounted to some extent for the drop? Have you given consideration to a premium paid-up members' only online area which is worth the money?

[Guest]

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>>Gary, I really hope you are right (T&FN
>ON
>Jeopardy and not IN jeopardy) but such
>a
>subscriptions drop (less 25% in 3 years)
>may
>cause some doubts.
If American fans ar no
>more
>interested in athletics, why not set out
>for
>European ones?
After all you may find
>20/40,000
>spectators only in European meetings
>(Brussels,
>Zurich, London, Rome,
>Berlin).
Anyhow, good luck
>to the world's very
>best t&f magazine!



Athletics Weekly is my
>fave T&F magazine, but I digress...

I think it
>is about time TFN started lobbying for European
>subscribers. Athletics is much more popular in
>Europe than it is in the USA. Plus, many people
>from European countries look up to the USA;
>couple that with the fact that the majority of
>Europeans can read English too.

The internet
>is the perfect tool to capitalise on the European
>market. I know that TFN probably do deliver to
>European countries, but that fact isn't very well
>promoted. Maybe start with some kind of
>introductory offer, to generate interest, and
>then work on it from there.

TFN is one of the
>most respected athletics publications around and
>a lot of track fans refer to the TFN annual world
>rankings fairly regularly. Of course, you may
>have to start publishing the results section in
>metres instead of feet and inches (something
>which is well overdue anyway IMHO). Surely it'd
>be much easier for the results people too, as the
>results they collate would be in metres, and
>they'd save their time if they didn't have to
>convert the data to imperial measurements.

I
>dunno... just some suggestions!

[Guest]

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>>TFN is one of the
>most respected athletics publications around and
>a lot of track fans refer to the TFN annual world
>rankings fairly regularly. Of course, you may
>have to start publishing the results section in
>metres instead of feet and inches (something
>which is well overdue anyway IMHO). Surely it'd
>be much easier for the results people too, as the
>results they collate would be in metres, and
>they'd save their time if they didn't have to
>convert the data to imperial measurements.>>

Just coincidentally, while out driving this afternoon I heard a guy reading a list of "the worst jobs in science." Things like mosquito-repellent tester (stick your bare arm in a a case full of ravenous critters), or people who work with the maggots they use to eat the flesh off corpses to get clean skeletons.

But also right in there was..... "metric-system advocate"!

I don't think people who live outside the U.S. realize what a brick wall they're running into with their incessant cries to use the metric system. It's a far better system yes (just as Beta kicked the shit out of VHS), but that's not enough. Read my lips: WILL NOT HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES.

I'd guess you'd have an easier time convincing people they had to learn a second language. That would be less foreign. Today's entry for the sad but true file.

[Guest]

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I believe the finacial viablity of T&F News is largely due to the Tourist aspect of the magazine, not sales of the magazine??

[Jon]

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I don't think
>people who live outside the U.S. realize what a
>brick wall they're running into with their
>incessant cries to use the metric system. It's a
>far better system yes (just as Beta kicked the
>shit out of VHS), but that's not enough. Read my
>lips: WILL NOT HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES.

I'd
>guess you'd have an easier time convincing people
>they had to learn a second language. That would
>be less foreign. Today's entry for the sad but
>true file.

It happened in the UK, so why not the US? The UK used to be just as 'imperial' as the US now are. Also, the more and more the metric system gets widely used, it'll make the transition less drastic.

Anyway, in my post above I wasn't suggesting that the whole of USA turns metric. Most american track fans should be used to looking up metric results on the net and in stats books, so why not in their favourite t&f publication? It'll open up a big door to the European market.

[Guest]

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>>It
>happened in the UK, so why not the US? The UK
>used to be just as 'imperial' as the US now are.>>

It did? Last time I was in England the highway signs seemed to be in miles and everybody talked about their weight in stones and you bought beer in pints. What's up with that????

[Guest]

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>>Anyway, in my post above I wasn't
>suggesting that the whole of USA turns metric.
>Most american track fans should be used to
>looking up metric results on the net and in stats
>books, so why not in their favourite t&f
>publication? It'll open up a big door to the
>European market.>>

I repeat: WILL NOT HAPPEN IN OUR LIFETIMES. (Pardon the "yelling") If you don't live here, you just don't understand.

And if the whole country doesn't go, track doesn't go. It's an all or nothing thing.