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  • guru
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    Just to liven the board on a slow day, by request 8)


    http://groups.msn.com/theextramile/shoebox.msnw

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  • DrJay
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    Thanks for the reply. Have great 2006 season.

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  • Zat0pek
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    Steve, have you raced this year? I thought I saw a 3,000 result for you, but I can't find it.

    Add me to the list of well-wishers. Glad to hear your fitness is coming along well.

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  • sjm1368
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    moved on in that department too. I'm just taking some basic classes at a local school to keep on track with getting my degree and education. I'll transfer next year to some school to finish up my degree. The question is if I'll run for that school or not.

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  • gh
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    Now only if it had your picture at 12! :-)

    You still in school at Rice, or have you moved on in that department also?

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  • sjm1368
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    guru-
    ha interesting stuff. Thanks for reminding me that I haven't changed my yahoo profile since I was about 12 years old.

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  • guru
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    Originally posted by tafnut
    OK, THAT was cool - ask a question about a guy and HE answers! Thanks and good luck - you've got fans here!

    Hmm, interesting.

    http://profiles.yahoo.com/sjm1368

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  • tafnut
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    OK, THAT was cool - ask a question about a guy and HE answers! Thanks and good luck - you've got fans here!

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  • sjm1368
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    I still post, although mostly lurking. I'm too much of a track junkie to stay away.

    Last 2 years in track (XC went pretty well) didn't go to well so I decide to change things up a bit. This year I'm just going to race unattached at meets come outdoor season. I'm training hard and smart and it's going real well. By all indications I'm in the best shape I've been in ever, just waiting a bit to round into racing shape in may and june.
    Then next year, I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to do as I'm weighing my options.

    Hope that answers your questions,
    steve

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  • gh
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    He ran 4:03 indoors at Washington's Last CXhance meet last March, but didnt' run in NCs. Not on Rice's roster this year, when he should be a junior (HS '03).

    He used to post here once in a while. Yo, Steve!!!!

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  • BYU grad
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    Good question, Dr. Jay, I was wondering the same thing.

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  • DrJay
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    Dredged up this thread with a search for SM, trying to find out what he's done in the last year or so. What has he done? Anyone know?

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  • tafnut
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    Re: Magness as HS-only miler: wow!

    thanks, ycn, interesting stuff.

    2 notes:
    1. In the 1800's we had a 3 cent coin (not an even decimal fraction)
    2. Since sodas are now sold in 1 and 2 liter sizes is there a Communist plot to take us over from the youth ages up?

    edit: typical thread - goes from miling to metrics in nothing flat.

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  • ycn
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    Re: Magness as HS-only miler: wow!

    Thomas Jefferson proposed a decimal system of weights and measures in 1790.

    The world's first decimal (hence metric in a real sense) currency was the United States dollar, and that dates back to 1792. If I'm not mistaken, there's a law that says no unit of money may be minted that isn't either an even multiple of the dollar, or an even division of the dollar. That's about as metric as you can get.

    Since 1866 it has been unlawful in the United States to refuse to trade or deal in metric quantities.

    U.S. weights and measures have been officially defined in terms of the metric system since 1893.

    The modern metric system wasn't finalized until 1960, when the meter was redefined in terms of a specific wavelength of light. (In fact, I think that probably the specific wavelength of light had a lot more to do with matching 100 centimeters than developing a standard meter. It's no accident that a cubic centimeter is the exact cubic measure of one centiliter of pure water at standard temperature.)

    Most consumable liquids have been bottled or containerized in metric units for quite a few years. The United States Department of Commerce's Bureau of Standards, now known as the National Institute for Standards and Technology, has played a leading role in development of metric standards, and in defining imperial standards in terms thereof.

    Any suggestion that somehow the U.S. is backwards or stubbornly resisting what seems logical to the rest of the world is a shortsighted and colloquial attitude toward a society that has been deeply and historically ingrained with a measurement system that does not today differ in accuracy from metric, but only in convention.

    I've dealt quite often in both systems, and clearly there are advantages to both. One particular thing I find irksome about the metric system is the fact that height and distance records in international track are only defined in centimeter increments, or roughly 4/10 of an inch. I would much prefer measurement values closer to 1/8 of an inch in events such as the high jump and pole vault, because one centimeter seems like an ungainly number, particularly when it comes to those establishing those records.

    Perhaps the compromise could be made that 5 millimeters would be the minimum measurement increment. Unfortunately, I don't think it can ever happen. The international community is unlikely to follow any Yankee recommendation that tampers with their hallowed metric conventions.

    http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/dates.htm

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  • kuha
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    Re: Magness as HS-only miler: wow!

    I don't think metric was invented to specifically make things "easier." It is an offshoot of the great (French) Enlightenment project to make all things logical, rational, and universal. To that extent, it's an itegral part of a very specific historical, philosophical, and ideological project (from the period of the late 1700s/early 1800s). There's nothing "wrong" with that, but as KF said, there's no use pretending that metric makes any more intrinsic
    "sense" than imperial.

    Dave Johnson's comments above about the decimal use of imperial measure are most interesting...

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