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Tennessee men's 4x1 dropped baton at Mideast, but picked it up and finished in 45-seconds-plus. But that kept them in the at-large pool and they made Nationals based on fast time earlier in year.
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Would that have worked in an individual event? As I recall the rules, I don't think so. (And I don't have time to go back and re-read the rules right now.) -
I think so.... anybody who finishes as a top 12 seed (and if you finish a final you're no worse than No. 8 ) goes into the pool, where yearly time takes over. The key word in the rules is "complete" an event. A false start or a DQ and you're out though. Better to be the last non-Q from the heats than to make final and not cross the line!Comment
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Re: The Importance Of Not DNFing At Regionals
When I hear this, I wonder what the point of the Regional meet -- or at least the current rules -- is in the first place.Originally posted by ghComment
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You're right. I had forgotten about that parenthetical provision.Originally posted by ghComment
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Tennessee did the same thing last year when they dropped the and ran a 44.94 in the final. Making sure that your athletes understand the rules of the game is what I call good coaching. I'll also add that any athlete who is at or near the top af the descending order list and false starts in a regional final is either a moron or poorly coached. By the way, what's the rule on dropped batons? If the baton has already rolled out of the zone, must the incoming runner go and pick it up and trot back into the zone before he makes the pass to the outgoing runner? Or can the outgoing runner just go and pick it up and start running regardless of where the baton lands?Comment
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The runner who drops the baton must pick it up.Originally posted by jazzcyclistComment
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How do you determine who dropped it without the benefit of slo-mo replay? Let's face it, usually neither runner has a firm grip on the baton at the moment before it hits the ground.Originally posted by tandfmanComment
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Excellent question; since you're certainly already out of it (in a 4x1) if you drop, I'd say the smart thing would always be for the incoming runner to pick it up; I'd guess officials would be unlikely to call a penalty. Unless the lead guy was already 2-3 steps down the track of course.Comment
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The incoming runner has to pick up the dropped baton and give it to the outgoing runner.Comment
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It's also important not to get a DNF in an eight-lane NCAA final if your team is in contention for the overall title. In Sacramento, only the 100, 100 hurdles and 110 hurdles have nine lanes.Comment
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Unless it was the outgoing runner who dropped it, in which case it must be the outgoing runner who picks it up.Originally posted by BE
What gh suggested sounds like good advice in the normal circumstances where it's not clear that the outgoing runner had control of the baton when it dropped.Comment
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If the baton is dropped while attempting an exchange, either athlete can pick it up.Originally posted by tandfmanComment
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Good point. Interestingly, that provision is found in the NCAA rules, but not in the IAAF or USATF rules. It's a good rule because without it, the officials will sometimes have to make a tough judgment call as to who dropped it. It's often not clear, especially if both runners have had a hand on it before it dropped.Comment
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For what it's worth:
Originally posted by USATF 2005 Rules of Competition, Rule 170, No. 12Comment
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