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  • #16
    So this guy walks into a bar in Hoboken.....

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    • #17
      Originally posted by gh
      So this guy walks into a bar in Hoboken.....
      and sees 2 guys, Necken and Tolkien?
      Take good care of yourself.

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      • #18
        Ottey wins the Slovenian national title with 11.69
        "If Gaby worked as hard with the weights as she did with her tongue she'd have a different concept of beauty. To get performances like mine, she'd have to sacrifice some of her good looks. The women of the west dont work as hard as we do" JK

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Andrea_T
          Ottey wins the Slovenian national title with 11.69
          It's not so bad. The wind was -0.3. I am afraid she is far from world champs qualifying shape though.

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          • #20
            Well apparently it came off the back of "hard training" and she has the qualifying mark from last year...I guess as she is going in the 4x100, if she wants to run the 100, they will let her...

            Whether that is a good idea or not, I don't know- I really don't want to see Merlene Ottey at the back of a first round heat

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            • #21
              Originally posted by peach
              Well apparently it came off the back of "hard training" and she has the qualifying mark from last year...I guess as she is going in the 4x100, if she wants to run the 100, they will let her...

              Whether that is a good idea or not, I don't know- I really don't want to see Merlene Ottey at the back of a first round heat
              Give the lady a break. Do you know any other 47-year-olds who can run within a second of what she's running?

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              • #22
                Listen, if you enjoy what you do and can still make the qualifying standards, then why shouldn't an athlete compete? Any athlete comes to a certain point where they realize they can't run their bests anymore. Continuation beyond that point is done for the love of what you do, and to see just how good you can remain.

                GO MERLENE!

                Kurt

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Andrea_T
                  Ottey wins the Slovenian national title with 11.69
                  I wish she'd come to Canada. Our national title was won in 11.60. :wink:
                  Take good care of yourself.

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                  • #24
                    Yesterday she was third in Malles Venosta (Italy, international meet), she ran 11.56 (w -1,8 ).

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kurt Francis
                      Any athlete comes to a certain point where they realize they can't run their bests anymore. Continuation beyond that point is done for the love of what you do, and to see just how good you can remain.
                      Isn't that what Masters competition is for?! :P :wink:

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kurt Francis
                        Listen, if you enjoy what you do and can still make the qualifying standards, then why shouldn't an athlete compete?
                        not to mention the money she still makes racing against the young'uns...

                        how many nigerians are there in norway? my goodness... norway has such a tradition of black sprinters, doesn't it? not only this girl you mentioned above, but they had a 2nd nigerian girl in the euro juniors finals.

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                        • #27
                          In a word...NO. I.E., I'm 42 yrs old, looking to return to competition after many years of coaching others. While I'll compete in masters meets, I am interested and will compete against the youngsters. I'd rather be in the middle of the pack amongst much better throwers than 1st among a buch of older guys. Masters track, for me at least, is only a means to an end, not the end itself. Once I can't compete satisfactorily against the kids, I'm retiring for good.

                          Kurt


                          Originally posted by Jon
                          Originally posted by Kurt Francis
                          Any athlete comes to a certain point where they realize they can't run their bests anymore. Continuation beyond that point is done for the love of what you do, and to see just how good you can remain.
                          Isn't that what Masters competition is for?! :P :wink:

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kurt Francis
                            In a word...NO. I.E., I'm 42 yrs old, looking to return to competition after many years of coaching others. While I'll compete in masters meets, I am interested and will compete against the youngsters. I'd rather be in the middle of the pack amongst much better throwers than 1st among a buch of older guys. Masters track, for me at least, is only a means to an end, not the end itself. Once I can't compete satisfactorily against the kids, I'm retiring for good.
                            But that was my original point. Of course I have nothing against Ottey running- she is my all time favourite athlete and to see her run is a pleasure- if she had retired when she conventionally "should" have, I may never have seen her in person. BUT, when I made my earlier comment, she had just run outside 12 seconds for a distant last place in an average field- no one wants to see that of their favourite athletes, let alone an all time great like Merlene. The fact she is down under 11.6 into a 1.6 headwind suggests that I was premature to worry and that she can get back under 11.4 this season...here's hopin !

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                            • #29
                              Point taken, but just WHO is Merlene running for? Herself? Or you? I can tell you this, I was NEVER competing for friends, family, or the few spectators in any stadium. It was and remains about MY love of competition. I think this is where many fans of any sport get their priorities out of whack. Athletes compete for themselves FIRST! Everything and everyone else is secondary. Athletes that aren't doing it for themselves first eventually find themselves not motivated to continue on in sport. I know, I've run across a lot of kids I coached that were doing it for someone else, not themselves. They quickly found themselves not wanting to do it after a certain point. Merlene couldn't give a rats *&# whether you don't want to see her running 12sec or not. She's not out there for you or anyone else. As long as she can perform in such a manner that pleases herself, that's ALL that counts.

                              Kurt

                              P.S. - I did have the pleasure of seeing Merlene run back in '85 at Indy. It was good.


                              Originally posted by peach
                              Originally posted by Kurt Francis
                              In a word...NO. I.E., I'm 42 yrs old, looking to return to competition after many years of coaching others. While I'll compete in masters meets, I am interested and will compete against the youngsters. I'd rather be in the middle of the pack amongst much better throwers than 1st among a buch of older guys. Masters track, for me at least, is only a means to an end, not the end itself. Once I can't compete satisfactorily against the kids, I'm retiring for good.
                              But that was my original point. Of course I have nothing against Ottey running- she is my all time favourite athlete and to see her run is a pleasure- if she had retired when she conventionally "should" have, I may never have seen her in person. BUT, when I made my earlier comment, she had just run outside 12 seconds for a distant last place in an average field- no one wants to see that of their favourite athletes, let alone an all time great like Merlene. The fact she is down under 11.6 into a 1.6 headwind suggests that I was premature to worry and that she can get back under 11.4 this season...here's hopin !

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                              • #30
                                Of course she's running for herself- she loves the sport, she wants to run

                                But if its just for the love of running, then why not do the masters circuit if you are going to run outside of 12 secs and not be able to compete with girls much younger than you ?

                                Still irrelevant though, she has rounded into ok enough form by the looks of things...

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