David Klech Not Returning To UCLA [to Oregon]

[gh]

Any chance there were academic issues? i.e. not a good fit (for what ever reason). Is he thinking Stanford or Cal?

A couple of guys on Dyestat, including an administrator of the site, actually "broke" this story a couple weeks ago, and at that time said it was Oregon.

Here's the link to their discussion:
http://talk.dyestat.com/showthread.php?t=63364

See story on front page for more details; transfter inside the conference would mean sitting out a year; outside the conference would not. He says no academic problems and writer even raises question of going to Cal or Stanford.

[bad hammy]

Question: does a transfer in conference mean sitting out a year AND losing that year of eligibility, or would Klech still have three years left after the one-year vacation?

[paulthefan]

[quote=guruof track][quote="bad hammy":3etuwl6x]

He is clearly a sub13.3 potential high hurdler and a sub 49 long hurdler.

Potential sub 13.3 hurdler............I HIGHLY disagree with that.

Potenial, yes. Clearly, no.[/quote:3etuwl6x]

The guy ran under 13.8 once over 39 inches, he was usually hovering around 14 flat. Anything is possible, but within the realm of reality thats a far stretch.[/quote:3etuwl6x]

He is a tall athletic kid with good speed.. that gets him to 13.3 ..... any kid with that frame at that age that is at 13.8Hs has the hardware.

[gh]

History says you're probably wrong: only about 50 Americans have ever run in the 13.3s over the big hurdles. There were 13 preps running 13.8s last year. A way different event.

[paulthefan]

Yes but a historical 13.3 is not a circa 2007 13.3.. so while historically you are right, I stand by my claim. I think this fellow has the tools for 13.3 second 110s.. I dont think that is a terribly big claim in todays event... and lastly if we had reasonable levels of participation in the 110H we would have near 100 guys a year at that level.

Actually Klech is probably worth better than 13.3 but I dont want to really poke the bees nest here...

[bad hammy]

I'm of the opinion that the 110h talk is a moot point. His most natural event is the 400h.

[tandfman]

OK, I seem to have missed something important. Once upon a time, if you transferred from one Div I school to another, you lost a year of eligibility absent some extenuating circumstances. I gather from this threat that this is now limited to intra-conference transfers. I'm not totally surprised. In recent years, I've noticed some eligible transfers listed in WTAG that I wondered about.

So now I'm curious. When did this change take place? And what, exactly, is the new rule--do all conferences have this policy or does the loss of eligibility depend on which conference is involved?

[Smoke]

Oh call me a spoil sport but who cares what event he is best at (it is the 400 hurdles and high jump by the way, 110s are a distant third), what in the hell is happening at UCLA. no sprinters and their top 2 recruits of the last 2 classes were granted releases within the last 3 weeks!
I know someone has the answer, i want to know why no one is willing to say the truth about the program??? If you think it is loyalty, let's really examine that.
Are you loyal because you are quiet and will not air dirty laundry, or are you lyal because you exposed whatever is hidden in the quest to better the program?

[lagster]

high knees wrote:

don't think it's a UCLA thing at all. I think you have 2 kids of tremendous talent who were over ran and over competed in H.S. (remember Craddock barley competed at all in his H.S. senior season due to repeated injury and Klech underperformed and acutally had to scratch one of his events in the H.S. state meet due to injury after doing the LJ, HJ, 400, 800, 110H, 300h and relays in various combinations in dual meets and many invitationals),

Agree in regards Klech. Even after injury Klech runs the 300H at the State meet and then competes afterwards in some national meets. Got to wonder about that decision.[/quote]

[guruof track]

[quote=paulthefan][quote=guruof track]

He is clearly a sub13.3 potential high hurdler and a sub 49 long hurdler.

Potential sub 13.3 hurdler............I HIGHLY disagree with that.

Potenial, yes. Clearly, no.

The guy ran under 13.8 once over 39 inches, he was usually hovering around 14 flat. Anything is possible, but within the realm of reality thats a far stretch.[/quote:271nh8bg]

He is a tall athletic kid with good speed.. that gets him to 13.3 ..... any kid with that frame at that age that is at 13.8Hs has the hardware.[/quote:271nh8bg]

He wasnt running 13.8s he ran under 13.8 ONCE!!!!! He was hovering around 14 flat most of the time. Thats not exactly someone I call a 13.8 kid.

X-man ran a 19.63 once but he isnt a 19.6 guy yet.........hes a legit sub 20 guy. WHile his time is legit he isnt conisitent enough to be called a 19.6 guy atleast with any definity.

[26mi235]

People have said that he is not a candidate for the decathlon. Look at his skills/abilities: speed for 100, 400, and 110 hurdles (didn't he have a good 800, so even the 1500 should be ok. He has a great HJ and LJ. That is 6 of 10. There is the vault, where he has the speed to be at least adequate.

This is the point where everyone says he is too thin/light. I am pretty sure that he weighs more than the #2 in the NCAA decathlon who went to Wisconsin as a walk-on. He is now listed as having bulked up to 160 pounds (my guess is 165). Kelch is NOT too small, he just needs to go somewhere like Wisconsin where they can get the most out of his capabilities, not the least. By the way, Detmer was also an honor graduate in computer engineering, so he did not sacrifice the academics either.

[26mi235]

[quote=guruof track][quote=paulthefan][quote="guruof track":2fnebtfr]

He is clearly a sub13.3 potential high hurdler and a sub 49 long hurdler.

Potential sub 13.3 hurdler............I HIGHLY disagree with that.

Potenial, yes. Clearly, no.

The guy ran under 13.8 once over 39 inches, he was usually hovering around 14 flat. Anything is possible, but within the realm of reality thats a far stretch.[/quote:2fnebtfr]

He is a tall athletic kid with good speed.. that gets him to 13.3 ..... any kid with that frame at that age that is at 13.8Hs has the hardware.[/quote:2fnebtfr]

He wasnt running 13.8s he ran under 13.8 ONCE!!!!! He was hovering around 14 flat most of the time. Thats not exactly someone I call a 13.8 kid.

X-man ran a 19.63 once but he isnt a 19.6 guy yet.........hes a legit sub 20 guy. WHile his time is legit he isnt conisitent enough to be called a 19.6 guy atleast with any definity.[/quote:2fnebtfr]

Now name me someone who is or was ever consistent enough to be called a 19.6 runner. It seems to me that until last year all prior occurrences were in a 2-month period in 1996. I think that you need a different metric/standard.

[Guest]

The issue regarding 13.3 is 100 speed. What is Klech's 100? You probably are talking at least 10.40 something for a 13.3 and 20.6 or so in the 200. is he that fast?

[guruof track]

[quote=26mi235][quote=guruof track][quote=paulthefan]

He is clearly a sub13.3 potential high hurdler and a sub 49 long hurdler.

Potential sub 13.3 hurdler............I HIGHLY disagree with that.

Potenial, yes. Clearly, no.

The guy ran under 13.8 once over 39 inches, he was usually hovering around 14 flat. Anything is possible, but within the realm of reality thats a far stretch.

He is a tall athletic kid with good speed.. that gets him to 13.3 ..... any kid with that frame at that age that is at 13.8Hs has the hardware.[/quote:1d0i2jqp]

He wasnt running 13.8s he ran under 13.8 ONCE!!!!! He was hovering around 14 flat most of the time. Thats not exactly someone I call a 13.8 kid.

X-man ran a 19.63 once but he isnt a 19.6 guy yet.........hes a legit sub 20 guy. WHile his time is legit he isnt conisitent enough to be called a 19.6 guy atleast with any definity.[/quote:1d0i2jqp]

Now name me someone who is or was ever consistent enough to be called a 19.6 runner. It seems to me that until last year all prior occurrences were in a 2-month period in 1996. I think that you need a different metric/standard.[/quote:1d0i2jqp]

point taken...but Gay has to be considered VERY close. At the least a 19.7 sprinter..........low 19.7

[paulthefan]

headline 21 months hence; Kletch goes 13.3X, must now decide whether to challenge for 110H crown.