Womens LJ Madrid Lebedeva 7,15!

[Flumpy]

I'm not disputing it at all. I didn't see it. It just seemed so improbable that nobody really seemed to take it seriously.

[midnightsun]

Kotova's 7.42 did really look like a 7.42 on tv as some others have said.
Personally I never questioned the correctness of the measuring that time.

[Flumpy]

Hmmmm. I remember seeing that result on the Eurosport round-up of the meet and spat out whatever I was drinking. I know that many people here feel that this was an officiating error ? I mean, many say the jump was nowhere near 7.42m when looking at the markings besides the pit

I was there. It was the hotest weather I've ever experienced. Something like 40C (104F). I was great weather for competing but the crowd nearly passed out.

Anyway I remember being at the end of the 100m line speaking to some of the UK team when 7.42m flashed up on tne scoreboard. We just assumed it was a mistake ( think there had been a few that day) and just ignored it. Later as we went to sit back in our seats we saw Jade Johnson screaming at her coach John Herbert...............

"I got metered. I GOT METERED!!!!" meaning that she'd been beaten by a metre.

Jade had jumped 6.42m and it was only then we realised that Kotova's was legal. I have to say not many people in the stadium that day seemed to believe it.

Nothing like as dodgy as Lalova's 10.77 though.

[lonewolf]

The distance indicators alongside the pit, although presumably reliable, are not always accurate.Unless you are very near and directly opposite the point of contact it is very iffy to second guess the mark..Only the pit judge marking the jump and perhaps the pit rakers can see the exact first impression, which usually results in a lesser mark that may not be visible from afar.

[trackworld]

Just watched Tsatoumas' 8.66 on youtube - unless the markings are wrong, it looks more like 8.35 to 8.45.

If you've only seen the one jump out of the entire competition, there's no way you can make that call. TV nearly always shows the jumps at some sort of an angle introducing paralax error, so they look either shorter or longer compared to the markings than they really are.

If you watched other jumps shot from the same camera, you could tell whether the difference between the apparent distance compared to the markings and the actual measurements is consistent.

I really get annoyed when that happens. I mean I could be watching a World or National/Area Record and think that's ' just a good performance '. I am grateful for coverage (we get a lot over here in the UK than the majority of the world, certainly much more than the USA), but things that like are quite annoying

[Powell]

Just watched Tsatoumas' 8.66 on youtube - unless the markings are wrong, it looks more like 8.35 to 8.45.

If you've only seen the one jump out of the entire competition, there's no way you can make that call. TV nearly always shows the jumps at some sort of an angle introducing paralax error, so they look either shorter or longer compared to the markings than they really are.

If you watched other jumps shot from the same camera, you could tell whether the difference between the apparent distance compared to the markings and the actual measurements is consistent.

[Andrea_T]

The conditions at the European Cup that year were superb and the wind perfect. Kotova's always had great potential but she's never quite lived up to it, but that day showed what she was capable off at her very best.
If you watch the Athens Olympics again you can see on Kotova's 7.05 jump she lost about 12cm compared to Lebedeva's and Simigina's near pefect toe-to-board jumps. She could have been Olympic champ!

Chistyakova was reported to have gone over 7.70m in training in 88. Igor Ter-Ovanesyan said in 87 he believed Drechsler would be the first woman to jump over 8m if she could successfully convert her speed into a better trajectory and elevation as her angle was too low. Drechsler always believed 7.70 was possible, but 8m was obviously pie in the sky and Igor had probably had too much vodka that day. Besides, converting sub 11 speed into the right jump isnt easy, just ask Marion.

[Matt]

Disagree on Kotova - the jump was during the European Cup that year and the BBC commentators believed she was close to the world record. It was a 7.42.

Just watched Tsatoumas' 8.66 on youtube - unless the markings are wrong, it looks more like 8.35 to 8.45.

[nikko84]

For Kotova i didn't know that.............
Hope you weren't drinking alcohol

[trackworld]

Kotova did 7.42 in Eurocup (2002 or 2003)

Hmmmm. I remember seeing that result on the Eurosport round-up of the meet and spat out whatever I was drinking. I know that many people here feel that this was an officiating error ? I mean, many say the jump was nowhere near 7.42m when looking at the markings besides the pit

[eldrick]

Drechsler did indeed do 7.63, with a 2.01 wind, rounded up to 2.1.

And 2050m of altitude.

if gh ( who's "allergic" to contact with his casio ) wants a rough estimate of her "basic" jump :

in here :

http://myweb.lmu.edu/jmureika/track/wind/w200b.html

find "60m" function

put in 7.00s ( for her likely 60m ability )

convert to a basic 60m time with +2.01/2050m

square that

divide that into 7.62

you get a "basic" lj figure to put onto the table...

[gh]

Drechsler did indeed do 7.63, with a 2.01 wind, rounded up to 2.1.

And 2050m of altitude.

[eldrick]

worth noting though, that marion's take-off speed/angle, with ideal technique ->

~ 7.70 - 7.80m

[Mennisco]

Drechsler did indeed do 7.63, with a 2.01 wind, rounded up to 2.1.

Still the only woman to have exceeded 25 feet!

[nikko84]

Kotova did 7.42 in Eurocup (2002 or 2003)