what does webb's 346.91 mile convert to in 1500?

[eldrick]

there are guys like aouita & walker who either held 1500 or mile record, but never both

so they woud get excluded from the "1.08 study"

any study which ignores their data doesn't seem as foolproof as it shoud

as for instance, in '74/'75 :

bayi ran 3'32.2 & 3'51.0 : an 18.8s difference or 1.089

walker ran 3'32.4 & 3'49.4 : a 17s or 1.080 difference

applies well to a guy who didn't hold both wrs, but not to one who did

1.08 is just a starting point - nice place to start, but just a starting point

[Charles Howe]

there are guys like aouita & walker who either held 1500 or mile record, but never both

so they woud get excluded from the "1.08 study"

any study which ignores their data doesn't seem as foolproof as it shoud

It's not a study, just a set of data, and I said the the 1.08 value it produced was robust, not foolproof.

as for instance, in '74/'75 :

bayi ran 3'32.2 & 3'51.0 : an 18.8s difference or 1.089

This is the extreme outlying value, and it bears out my point that anaerobic capacity (i.e., 800 m speed) does not seem to bias the value one way or another.

walker ran 3'32.4 & 3'49.4 : a 17s or 1.080 difference

applies well to a guy who didn't hold both wrs, but not to one who did

Suffice it to say that you do not seem to understand the concept of variance, nor the use of WR holders in this instance (simply a quick way of obtaining absolute PRs).

[eldrick]

there are guys like aouita & walker who either held 1500 or mile record, but never both

as for instance, in '74/'75 :

bayi ran 3'32.2 & 3'51.0 : an 18.8s difference or 1.089

This is the extreme outlying value, and it bears out my point that anaerobic capacity (i.e., 800 m speed) does not seem to bias the value one way or another.

i'm not sure what nonsense you are deluding yourself with ?!

bayi with no recorded 800pb, but presumably not good, as he never tried it in competition has an 18.8s differential, whilst walker with a superb mid-1'44 pb has a 17s & you are telling us 800m ability has no effect ???

walker ran 3'32.4 & 3'49.4 : a 17s or 1.080 difference

applies well to a guy who didn't hold both wrs, but not to one who did

Suffice it to say that you do not seem to understand the concept of variance, nor the use of WR holders in this instance (simply a quick way of obtaining absolute PRs).

then you can kindly "edukate" us by taking the mean ratio difference between all dual wr holders, find their mean, standard deviation & 95% confidence limits

[Brian]

i'm not sure what nonsense you are deluding yourself with ?!

bayi with no recorded 800pb, but presumably not good, as he never tried it in competition has an 18.8s differential, whilst walker with a superb mid-1'44 pb has a 17s & you are telling us 800m ability has no effect ???

walker ran 3'32.4 & 3'49.4 : a 17s or 1.080 difference

Unrecorded? Sorry. Bayi ran several in competition.

A big one was his PR 1:45 for 4th in the Commonwealth Games final in 1974. Big because, since Walker had beaten him in the 800 (2nd to Kipkurgat in 1:44), the Kiwis then took him too lightly in the 1500m. final later in the week. Bayi went on to break the WR running 3:32.2 to Walker's 3:32.5 (also under the old record).