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  • Robison America's next great miler?

    Since the IAAF wisely changed the Olympic "A" standard for the 1500 meters, Stanford miler Grant Robison suddenly finds himself with "A" standard for the 2004 Olympics. This will give him a definite psychological boast in the trials. What also sets Robison apart is that unlike other US milers he is peaking before 27. He is 25 and judging by his 1500 meters times Robison is running close to a 3:52 mile. Coming off a strong cross country season he should be in good shape for the spring track season barring any injuries. Even though Jason Lunn was America's top miler last summer Krummenacker and Robison were clearly the fastest.

    Maybe Robison wiil be the next American to run 3:50 or under.

  • #2
    Re: Robison America's next great miler?

    Everyone knows that GABE JENNINGS is AMERICA'S greatest miler and will be for many years to come!! He will easily win the next Olympic trials!!!

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    • #3
      Re: Robison America's next great miler?

      Jennings will never get under 3:34. Not clean, anyway. He's a shuffler.

      Robison is ... too freakin' slow.

      Webb has the potential, and don't count out Hall. He's speedier than most realize, and he's obviously gained much strength the last couple of years.

      Right now, Krummy's the best miler in the US. The kids might knock him off soon, but Jennings and Robison aren't among the "kids". Krummy can whip those two.

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      • #4
        Re: Robison America's next great miler?

        At a clinic during the Olympic Trials in Sacto, I was quoted a figure of 113 steps per minute Jennings took during his 1500m best.

        Krummenacker's the man with the wheels. This is what I am looking for: an American miler who can be competetive on the world stage. This requires 3:30ish ability. That generally requires around 1:45 800m ability and a fine aerobic system. Some guys have crazy good aerobic systems and can run that kind of time off of much slower basic speed (Haile), but most top 1500m runners fall into the 1:44-1:45 range.

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        • #5
          Re: Robison America's next great miler?

          Robison is slow?!!
          He is much faster than either Webb or Gabe.
          Robison ran a 3:35 this summer while Webb barely broke a 4 minute mile.
          Ryan hall pr for the 1500 is only 3:41. That is not even good enough to qualify for the Olympic trials!!
          Lets try to think logically.

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          • #6
            Re: Robison America's next great miler?

            Krummenacker is great but he is 29 years old. He probably has peaked. I think Robison will fill Krummenackers shoes.

            P.S.
            No more Gabe crap. Let the guy run.

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            • #7
              Re: Robison America's next great miler?

              But it took Krummenacker a long time to get past 3:35 to 3:31. Many years of training.

              And interestingly enough, Robison is only 4 years younger. We will see.

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              • #8
                Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                >Since the IAAF wisely changed the Olympic "A"
                >standard for the 1500 meters, Stanford miler
                >Grant Robison suddenly finds himself with "A"
                >standard for the 2004 Olympics. This will give
                >him a definite psychological boast in the trials.>>

                The lowering of the standard is the worst thing that could have happened to U.S. milers. Instead of training to be sub-3:35 guys now they can be the same old slugs they always were.

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                • #9
                  Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                  here's the 'psychological' difference: now the US can send 3 guys to not make the final.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                    The US has a about a 50% chance of sending a runner to the finals. Remember, Jason Pyrah got to the finals in 2000 with only 3:36 speed.

                    I should have entitled this thread the next American 3:50 miler. Robison is talented, but I don't know if he is in Steve Scott range. Maybe Robison is a Tom Byers or Steve Holman type runner, which with all thing considered would be a big boast for US running.
                    Robison is not super fast, but he is running the same times as Krummenacker and Lunn and is four years younger. Surely in four years Robison's 3:35 PR could be reduced to at least 3:33.
                    What the US needs is someone with 3:50 - 3:52.50 speed. This will at least put an American runner in striking distance of the world's best. If either EL G or Laget have an off day a 3:52 miler can make things tough for them.

                    If Robison were 29 I would not of even started this thread. He would have just been another talented US miler peaking late.
                    As for the next great American miler lets first concentrate on an American running under 3:52 for the mile. As they say lets take it one step at a time.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                      What this really means is that the same as always we'll have a silly chasing for marks going on for a few weeks because without a rabbit (or a runner with real balls) the Sacramento race is going to go out in about 3:10 and the winner will be some guy who has a PR at about 3:39 but kicks best off a silly pace like that.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                        Unfortunately, in a slow tactical trial race sometimes mediocre 1500 meter runners qualify. They then have to scurry to Europe to get either the A or B standard. In this day and age a 3:40+ runner is probably not going to make the team.

                        I remember Jim Spivey being beaten out in the trials by Mark Deedy. Deedy was a 3:59 miler who suddenly found himself going to the Olympics. Deedy eventually went to the Olympics and predictably did not make the finals.

                        In slow tactical races sometimes flukes are bound to happen.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                          Krummenacker is the best distance runner in North America.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                            it depends on how great is defined, i wouldnt consider someone who has an outside shot at making a finals great. i would consider someone who is expected to make the finals and has a chance to win great, or in a golden league meet someone who runs under 330 for 1500 or 348 for the mile and has a outside shot at a record great. in my opinion our last great milers were steve scott and sydnee maree for the times they ran when they were running. jim ryun was great running 333 and 351, but if someone has bests of 333 and 351 now i would not consider them great, because the standard has risen with the records now 326 and 343 respectively.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                              The Great American milers

                              Glen Cunningham(?)
                              Jim Ryun
                              Steve Scott
                              Jim Spivey
                              Sidney Maree

                              Honorable mention
                              Joe Falcon
                              Steve Holman
                              Marty Liquori

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