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  • #16
    Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

    >Krummenacker is the best distance runner in North
    >America.
    >

    He's the guy with the best chance to run 3:30 but he's not necessarily any, if much, better than Robison and Lunn.

    There's a difference.

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    • #17
      Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

      Someone mentioned that Robison is NOT the next Steve Scott, but I believe that Robison and Scott are quite similar. Both are good over 10K cross and lack real 800m speed.

      I think Robison still has a lot of room to develop. There's a good chance all three spots on the Olympic team will go to Stanford alums.

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      • #18
        Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

        It will be interesting to see how the Stanford alumi does against the world. Jennings did not fare too well in 2000.

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        • #19
          Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

          >Krummenacker is the best distance runner in North
          >America.

          Lotsa folks are fast, but who has the aerobic stamina to get past the rounds and still have their best race?

          THATS who's gonna be the next GREAT miler.

          Speed is relative.

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          • #20
            Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

            Jennings qualified for the semis in Sydney after his redshirt soph season. Okay, Africans perform well on the world stage at a young age, but I don't think it's fair to say Gabe performed poorly at the Games. Yes, Pyrah qualified for the final, but Gabe had been competing at a high level since January of that year.

            Here was his long 200 season:

            Jennings
            8:03.31i 5)Boston 01/29
            8:09.46i 11)Fayetteville 02/12
            1:51.00i 4)Los Angeles 02/19
            4:04.29yi 1)Mtn Pac 02/26
            4:04.52yi 1–h1)NCAA Ind 03/10
            8:04.96i 7)NCAA Ind 03/11
            3:59.46yi 1)NCAA Ind 03/11
            13:44.60 3)Stanford 03/25
            3:40.08 1)Mt. SAC Open 04/15
            1:49.44 3–f2)Mt. SAC 04/16
            3:37.33 1)Cardinal Inv 05/05
            1:49.91 1)Cal-Stan 05/06
            3:38.7 1)Cardinal Qual 05/12
            3:42.86 1)Pac-10 05/21
            14:27.06 9)Pac-10 05/21
            3:43.18 1–h2)NCAA 06/01
            3:37.76 1)NCAA 06/03
            14:14.79 11)NCAA 06/03
            3:43.65 8)Eugene GP 06/24
            3:59.91y 8)Eugene GP 06/24
            3:38.96 1–h1)Oly Trials 07/14
            3:35.90 1)Oly Trials 07/16
            rabbit 0)Stanford 07/29
            1:47.08 10)Gateshead GP 08/28
            3:38.05 5)Berlin GP 09/01
            3:35.21 7)Rieti GP 09/03
            3:40.96 6–h2)Oly G 09/25
            3:40.10 9–s2)Oly G 09/27

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            • #21
              Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

              A few posts above Logic 101 points out that Ryan Hall's best 1500 is 3:41...as if that eliminated him from the discussion of American milers who may excell. But this is a young man who is very talented, has good speed and is obviously in great shape. If he can stay healthy and build on his momentum, getting in the training for the 1500/mile this spring and summer I think he could be in the top three Americans and maybe beyond.

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              • #22
                Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                >Someone mentioned that Robison is NOT the next
                >Steve Scott, but I believe that Robison and Scott
                >are quite similar. Both are good over 10K cross
                >and lack real 800m speed.

                Scott's 800 PB is 1:45.05 while Robison only has a 1:47.96 to his credit. It seems like Scott had decent 800 speed, real or imaginary.

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                • #23
                  Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                  Speed is
                  >relative.

                  If you can't run at LEAST 1:45 (clean) you cannot make it to the top tier of 1500/mile running.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                    Why dont you Americans understand teamwork? Your entire emphasis is on one American being the best - that is just your own mistakes in the world. Rather than focusing on just one, make it a system that brings several to the lead. Then you would not have to worry about who is the next great miler from America, because you would have several.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                      The 3:50 mile committee is not that accurate yet. Our computer hal 9000 girlfriend lisa 9000 left him yesterday and his conclusion thus have been faulty.
                      A computer with hurt feelings does not always come up with the best results.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Robison America's next great miler?

                        I agree US miling should not rely on one superstar. We need at least a half dozen 3:30 1500meter runners. Heck, the US has 280 million people there is no excuse to have no less than 6 3:50 milers running at one time.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                          " Krummenacker is the best distance runner in North America."

                          I agree if Kevin Sullivan retires.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                            Mr. Nuisance -your list betrays a lack of historical perspective. Consider these names, record holders all:

                            1. John Paul Jones
                            2. Abel Kiviat
                            3. Glenn Cunningham (without the "?")
                            4. Gil Dodds
                            5. Wes Santee
                            6. Dyrol Burleson
                            7. Jim Ryun
                            8. Marty Liquori
                            9. Steve Scott
                            10. Sydney Maree

                            HM: Chuck Fenske, Archie San Romani, Jim Spivey, Bill Dellinger, Jim Grelle, Bob McMillan, Bill Hulse, Tom O'Hara

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                            • #29
                              Re: Robison next American 3:50 Miler

                              The ranking is false without Jim Spivey on the main list. Since it is so rare any American who has broken 3:50 must be on the list.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Robison almost as fast as Maree

                                I have been looking at the record lists and noticed that Sidney Maree is the NCAA record holder at 1500meters with a time of 3:35.30. This summer Grant Robison ran a 3:35.70 in Beligum.
                                So this means Robison is just a tick behind the fastest NCAA metric miler ever.
                                Among active US 1500meter runners in the last 5 years only Krummenacker and Lassiter have run faster.
                                Why are people harping on Ryan Hall when Stanford already has one the top milers in North America.

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