Stockholm w400m

[eldrick]

is it as impressive as lashawn's

20.10 to 19.98??

almost world-class to world class - wouda won '00/'01/'03 globals

or as jazzy pointed out, bolt's ?[quote:bhflbx74]10.03 from a 19.75 guy??

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& his previous 100pb prior to his "19.75" days ?

[guru]

his previous 100pb prior to his "19.75" days ?

Ahh, now you're changing the rules. If your point is top-end speed improves as well as speed endurance, then, once again, we must compare APPLES TO APPLES. Fact is Bolt IS a 19.75 guy, 10.03 is right in line with that. In fact, I'd say it's a bit slow for a 200 runner of that caliber.

Tell me why Felix's 100 has not progressed in the same line her 400 has this year, if what you say is true. That is the only comparison that applies to this discussion.

[eldrick]

he ran 19.75 before he ran 10.03

[guru]

he ran 19.75 before he ran 10.03

EXACTLY!! :roll:

[eldrick]

he brought his 19.88pb down to 19.75

where does that say he MUST bring his 100pb down after ?!

[guru]

he brought his 19.88pb down to 19.75

where does that say he MUST bring his 100pb down after ?!

You're making my point.

Obviously, his speed endurance allowed his 200 to improve, thusly his speed endurance improved at a greater rate that his basic leg speed.

[eldrick]

not really

safa's much improved 400 hasn't improved his 200, let alone his 100 ?!

[guru]

not really

safa's much improved 400 hasn't improved his 200, let alone his 100 ?!

THAT'S MY POINT! Go back to the start of this tangent.

It's easier to improve at the next distance up(see FELIX)than the next distance down.

[jeremyp]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

[eldrick]

not really

safa's much improved 400 hasn't improved his 200, let alone his 100 ?!

THAT'S MY POINT! Go back to the start of this tangent.

It's easier to improve at the next distance up(see FELIX)than the next distance down.

she's run no better than a gdr 22-flat gal moving up

nothing impessive there

[guru]

it never occured to you that they moved up because they got a serious shit-kicking when they moved down ?

So I'll take that as you agreeing that improvement is easier at the next distance up than down(key word being consistent, not a one-off seasonal PR shot)?

And certainly easier than for someone who's been running the distance all year?

[Mennisco]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

I don't think it's fair to include a relay time made by anyone. I also think the asterisk and closing remarks are uncalled for.

[jazzcyclist]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

The difference is that Sanya and Allison are getting their marks in the same meet. None of the people you've listed have ever done 100/400 doubles to my knowledge.

[richxx87]

So the world's two best won't be running the 400 in Osaka. Bummer.

I'm assuming they'll both be on the 4x400.

That could be interesting, the USA may not even have a single w400 finalist at the WCs but could very well come near WR time in the relay.

[26mi235]

So the world's two best won't be running the 400 in Osaka. Bummer.

I'm assuming they'll both be on the 4x400.

That could be interesting, the USA may not even have a single w400 finalist at the WCs but could very well come near WR time in the relay.

Without two in shape to make the final they will not get close to the WR - you have to average under 49, not under 50.