Stockholm w400m

[Mennisco]

So back to the matter at hand, could someone kindly, if possible, furnish the 200/300 splits from the Galan 400?

Perhaps late but Richards ~35.0 (300) and Felix ~35.2.
Forgot pictures are not allowed. Sorry!

Thanks! That means a very slowish last 100, but who cares, they're gonna race at half the distance in a matter of days.

No, the splits are approximatively 36.0 for SR and 36.1 for AF.
I could grab a snapshot and post it somewhere for you to see if you like. It's just going to take some time.

Thanks, makes more sense.

[midnightsun]

So back to the matter at hand, could someone kindly, if possible, furnish the 200/300 splits from the Galan 400?

Perhaps late but Richards ~35.0 (300) and Felix ~35.2.
Forgot pictures are not allowed. Sorry!

Thanks! That means a very slowish last 100, but who cares, they're gonna race at half the distance in a matter of days.

No, the splits are approximatively 36.0 for SR and 36.1 for AF.
I could grab a snapshot and post it somewhere for you to see if you like. It's just going to take some time.



-edited to include picture-

[Mennisco]

A more appropriate comparison would be Wineberg moving up to the 800 after not doing it all year. What do you think her improvement curve would look like after 2 or 3 races?

That's not a bad idea. Something about her running style reminds me of Jearl Miles-Clark. I'd bet if she ran the 800 this month, she'd run a 1:58.x.

I agree there's some potential there, and it's been addressed. She's not having any of it.

She's still only 27.5, lots of time. No joke here either.

[guru]

A more appropriate comparison would be Wineberg moving up to the 800 after not doing it all year. What do you think her improvement curve would look like after 2 or 3 races?

That's not a bad idea. Something about her running style reminds me of Jearl Miles-Clark. I'd bet if she ran the 800 this month, she'd run a 1:58.x.

I agree there's some potential there, and it's been addressed. She's not having any of it.

[jazzcyclist]

So the world's two best won't be running the 400 in Osaka. Bummer.

I wouldn't bet on that!!

After the race yeasterday Dee dee was sitting with us to watch some of the meet (mostly her race) on the hotel. And her hamstring looked heavily bandaged. Don't know if that explains it all, but sure as h*** explains why she opened like my grandma first 200m!
Could be a wihhdrawal! I wouldn't go if I couldn't do sub 52!

I wouldn't bet on DeeDee's withdrawal just yet. Pride goeth before a fall. Or have I misinterpreted the quotation? Anyway, Inger Miller was clearly injured before Sydney 2000, but insisted she'd be ready to run the 100. She wasn't. Then she insisted she'd be ready for the 200. She wasn't. Then it was the relay, and again she wasn't, and her stubbornness cost the Olympic Trials 4th-place finishers in the 100/200 a shot at a possible medal.

You have to wonder why Trotter has been running in all these meets if she's not healthy. Is it for the money? Shouldn't she have been using this time to recuperate and get ready for Osaka? It was Clyde Hart who said, "not all money is good money" when Sanya insisted on running the Oslo 400 one week before USATF's.

[CookyMonzta]

So the world's two best won't be running the 400 in Osaka. Bummer.

I wouldn't bet on that!!

After the race yeasterday Dee dee was sitting with us to watch some of the meet (mostly her race) on the hotel. And her hamstring looked heavily bandaged. Don't know if that explains it all, but sure as h*** explains why she opened like my grandma first 200m!
Could be a wihhdrawal! I wouldn't go if I couldn't do sub 52!

I wouldn't bet on DeeDee's withdrawal just yet. Pride goeth before a fall. Or have I misinterpreted the quotation? Anyway, Inger Miller was clearly injured before Sydney 2000, but insisted she'd be ready to run the 100. She wasn't. Then she insisted she'd be ready for the 200. She wasn't. Then it was the relay, and again she wasn't, and her stubbornness cost the Olympic Trials 4th-place finishers in the 100/200 a shot at a possible medal.

The same for Gail in Athens 2004; only for her it was her last chance to get a medal in the 100 hurdles. She should have withdrawn from the 100, though.

[CookyMonzta]

Anyone want to predict a possible spoiler?

...sorry, Im all out of spoilers
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/h ... R_OUT_.asp

I take it you think Sherone Simpson is in Mo Greene purgatory right now, no?

[CookyMonzta]

A more appropriate comparison would be Wineberg moving up to the 800 after not doing it all year. What do you think her improvement curve would look like after 2 or 3 races?

That's not a bad idea. Something about her running style reminds me of Jearl Miles-Clark. I'd bet if she ran the 800 this month, she'd run a 1:58.x.

[Mennisco]

So back to the matter at hand, could someone kindly, if possible, furnish the 200/300 splits from the Galan 400?

Perhaps late but Richards ~35.0 (300) and Felix ~35.2.
Forgot pictures are not allowed. Sorry!

Thanks! That means a very slowish last 100, but who cares, they're gonna race at half the distance in a matter of days.

[Mennisco]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

I don't think it's fair to include a relay time made by anyone. I also think the asterisk and closing remarks are uncalled for.

This relay time is important as it shows what she might have done on the flat was as good if not better than many of the others. Bryzgina (PB 48.27) ran 47.8 in that relay, as did Nazarova (PB 49.11). As far as the asterick I'll assume you were joking!

I'll assume you forgot to include her hurdles time.

[ChuiTai]

So back to the matter at hand, could someone kindly, if possible, furnish the 200/300 splits from the Galan 400?

Perhaps late but Richards ~35.0 (300) and Felix ~35.2.
Forgot pictures are not allowed. Sorry!

[Mennisco]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

That asterix could easily go next to at least 3 others on those lists.

Discretion is the better part of valor!

In this case, deletion is the better part...

[jeremyp]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

The difference is that Sanya and Allison are getting their marks in the same meet. None of the people you've listed have ever done 100/400 doubles to my knowledge.

I don't think so. Neither ran more than one race in their PB's. Sanya did do 11.05 and 49.72 in the space of one hour, I'll grant you that. FloJo did her 400r time 40 minutes after her 4x100R leg. I also think M. Jones did 2 legs on one day in her 2000 Olys.

[jeremyp]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

I don't think it's fair to include a relay time made by anyone. I also think the asterisk and closing remarks are uncalled for.

This relay time is important as it shows what she might have done on the flat was as good if not better than many of the others. Bryzgina (PB 48.27) ran 47.8 in that relay, as did Nazarova (PB 49.11). As far as the asterick I'll assume you were joking!

[jeremyp]

While Sanya and Allyson are great 1/2/400 runners, they have some way to go in US or world history:

US
FloJo: 10.49/21.34/48.08R
MJones: 10.65/21.62/49.59
Gwen Torrence: 10.82/21.72/49.64
VB Hooks: 10.99/21.81/48.83

Rest:
Koch*: 10.83/21.71/47.6
Perec: 10.96/21.99/48.25
Privalova: 10.77/21.87/49.89 (not to mention 400H Gold)

*I think we all know why.

That asterix could easily go next to at least 3 others on those lists.

Discretion is the better part of valor!