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  • You want your fastest runners carrying the baton longest, so maybe the Jamaican coaches planned for Powell to get the baton early in the zone?
    Ditto, the women's race - where Edwards used more of the zone, and looked like a much more efficient exchange than Campbell's (who did get it early in the zone).

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    • Powell's 10-meter splits in the open 100 makes an 8.84s anchor seem perfectly reasonable to me. Think of the anchor as 120 meters from the blocks, since you're allowed a 20 meter running start on the 4x100 relay. Powell ran 9.96 in the open 100. Therefore he ran the last 80 meters in 7.05s, since his first 20 was run in 2.91s. The last 20 meters of his open 100, in which he shutdown before the finish, was timed at 1.82s. Therefore, a conservative estimate of Powell's last 20 meters of the 4x100 is 1.80s.

      7.05+1.80=8.85

      What's really scary is what a Gay anchor might have looked like. Using the same logic as above we get:

      9.85-2.93=6.92 and 6.92+1.73=8.65

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      • Originally posted by olorin
        Originally posted by trackworld
        Originally posted by olorin
        Originally posted by trackworld
        I'll echo Justin, as I heard Cram say 8.84 too. He passes Carl Lewis' fastest anchor [8.85 from the first 37.40 in 1992 Barcelona Olympics], although Carl never really had to chase anyone down on anchor apart from 1987 Worlds where I believe he had to chase down the GDR anchor ? He split 8.86 in that relay [37.90] so maybe if he had to chase someone down in 1992 high8.7 on the cards ?
        I believe you are mixing between two runs.
        In 1987 The U.S. won against Russia with 37.90 compare to 38.02 .
        Lewis ran down Krylov Vladimir with a split of 8.86 (pela's site). I have to admit that I can't remember this run. ops:
        The one that I do remember is in 1983 when Lewis was five meter behind Frank Emmelmann and then won by a meter (no split avliable).
        BTW - 38.02 from USSR with an average of something like 10.3 for athlete just show how pathetic the current WR is.
        Lewis split 8.98 on anchor in the 1983 Helsinki 4x1
        This not the run from Helsinki but the USA vs. GDR meet in June 1983
        Oh right. Any chance of you youtubing it, or don't you have it on vid ?

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        • Originally posted by trackworld
          Originally posted by olorin
          Originally posted by trackworld
          Originally posted by olorin
          Originally posted by trackworld
          I'll echo Justin, as I heard Cram say 8.84 too. He passes Carl Lewis' fastest anchor [8.85 from the first 37.40 in 1992 Barcelona Olympics], although Carl never really had to chase anyone down on anchor apart from 1987 Worlds where I believe he had to chase down the GDR anchor ? He split 8.86 in that relay [37.90] so maybe if he had to chase someone down in 1992 high8.7 on the cards ?
          I believe you are mixing between two runs.
          In 1987 The U.S. won against Russia with 37.90 compare to 38.02 .
          Lewis ran down Krylov Vladimir with a split of 8.86 (pela's site). I have to admit that I can't remember this run. ops:
          The one that I do remember is in 1983 when Lewis was five meter behind Frank Emmelmann and then won by a meter (no split avliable).
          BTW - 38.02 from USSR with an average of something like 10.3 for athlete just show how pathetic the current WR is.
          Lewis split 8.98 on anchor in the 1983 Helsinki 4x1
          This not the run from Helsinki but the USA vs. GDR meet in June 1983
          Oh right. Any chance of you youtubing it, or don't you have it on vid ?
          Sorry, I had a video of 1983 season but while traveling in Asia few years later someone from my family decided that taping a soap opera is more important then old track tapes

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          • Originally posted by Powell
            Originally posted by olorin
            S.B for the Russian team in 1983:
            Bryzgin 10.20
            Yevgenev 10.49
            Muravyov 10.36
            Krylov - ???
            We are talking 1987, not 1983. And they ran pretty well that year: Bryzgin 10.12, Krylov 10.16/20.23, Muravyov 10.26, Yevgenyev 10.25/20.61. Average just under 10.20. Plus Krylov's 200 prowess and Yevgenyev's bend-running skills made them meant they were worth better relay-wise.
            Ahmm.... ops: the imbursement ops: ops: ops:
            Back to the argument that the WR in 4*100 is very soft.
            Look at the Brazilian team that finished forth in Osaka:
            Athlete, PB, SB, time in Osaka
            De Lima, 10.13, 10.14A, 10.38
            Riberio, 10.30A (10.33 low altitude?), 10.39
            Moraes, 10.27A, 10.31, 21.07
            Viana, 10.28, 10.28
            Assuming that 10.14A is similar to 10.24 we have total time of 41.22. The Brazilian time in Osaka relay was 37.99 an improvement of 3.23 second (which represent an improvement of ~1.08 per athlete which is quite reasonable)
            The American team in Athens (Crawford-Gatlin-Miller-Greene) had a total time of 39.59 that should lead to sub 36.5 time. Even the relatively weak American team this time has a total time of 40.19 (probably a bit better because of Spearmon band ability) which should lead to a WR with around 0.9 improvement per athlete.

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            • Originally posted by olorin
              ...Sorry, I had a video of 1983 season but while traveling in Asia few years later someone from my family decided that taping a soap opera is more important then old track tapes
              All depends! Was it Dark Shadows, or.... ?

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              • Originally posted by EPelle
                "I gave him a slight push," Gay said, "to try to give him an edge."
                http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695206509,00.html
                I wonder if Gay knew before telling that to the press that pushing in a relay is against the rules...
                Originally posted by IAAF Rule 170. 16
                Assistance by pushing or by any other method shall result in disqualification.
                Should Jamaica have got the gold?

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                • Originally posted by Jon
                  Originally posted by EPelle
                  "I gave him a slight push," Gay said, "to try to give him an edge."
                  http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695206509,00.html
                  I wonder if Gay knew before telling that to the press that pushing in a relay is against the rules...
                  Originally posted by IAAF Rule 170. 16
                  Assistance by pushing or by any other method shall result in disqualification.
                  Should Jamaica have got the gold?
                  Did he push through the stick or directly?

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                  • Originally posted by 26mi235
                    Originally posted by Jon
                    Originally posted by EPelle
                    "I gave him a slight push," Gay said, "to try to give him an edge."
                    http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,5143,695206509,00.html
                    I wonder if Gay knew before telling that to the press that pushing in a relay is against the rules...
                    Originally posted by IAAF Rule 170. 16
                    Assistance by pushing or by any other method shall result in disqualification.
                    Should Jamaica have got the gold?
                    Did he push through the stick or directly?
                    He pushed Dixon in the back with his right hand.

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