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  • DT, Kruger 69.97 in Helsingborg

    69.97 Frantz Kruger FIN NR
    68.09 Gerd Kanter EST
    67.63 Rutger Smith NED PB

    Best three throws in the same competition so far this season. Really impressed by Kruger who now holds both the NR for Finland and AR for Africa.

    Also I'm starting to wonder which event really is the nr 1 for Smith, I've always considered SP as his better event, now I'm not too sure anymore.

    A question to especially swedes; pela, Epelle, how come we've seen so good throws in Helsingborg over the years?

    Former NR for Finland, 69.62 by Timo Tompuri also in Helsingborg. That was his personal "19.32" and he never got close to that again.
    In addition the Estonian NR held by Kanter 73.38 was also thrown in Helsingborg.

    Is that a "Field of Dreams" for DT or just pure co-incidence?

  • #2
    Think Category 5.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by gh
      Think Category 5.
      Well, if that was an answer I didn't get it ops:

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      • #4
        Originally posted by miguel
        Originally posted by gh
        Think Category 5.
        Well, if that was an answer I didn't get it ops:
        Were there 'helpful' winds?

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        • #5
          Re: DT, Kruger 69.97 in Helsingborg

          Originally posted by miguel
          67.63 Rutger Smith NED NR
          Isn't Erik De Bruin the NR-holder for Holland with 68.12? :?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gh
            Think Category 5.
            Originally posted by DaveW
            6 too many
            Don't know who to trust?? :shock:

            Actually I saw a interview with Frantz Kruger where he said that the conditions were good, even TOO GOOD (?), and that's why his first attempt was his best.

            I guess the wind was ideal for DT and they were trying too hard to get a good result.
            I saw Kruger's throw in the news and noticed that there was no "big" stadium, actually no stadium at all.

            I suppose it's harder to get an ideal wind inside a large stadium compared to a minor meet where the wind really will affect the throws.

            The wind won't necessary decide the winner but certainly will affect the results.
            Shouldn't there be an "w" for DT as well?

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            • #7
              Re: DT, Kruger 69.97 in Helsingborg

              Originally posted by miguel
              A question to especially swedes; pela, Epelle, how come we've seen so good throws in Helsingborg over the years?
              I'm myself have competed in Helsingborg at the same place where this good results have been achieved (in my youth in the hammer btw)....

              This weekend, the winds has been very strong at the west of Sweden (if not in all of Sweden) and I'm not at all surprised that good results can have been made in Helsingborg.

              I'm not sure, but I'm almost certain that "the Heden" has no constructions which can stop the wind, but my memory can fail me...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tafnut
                Originally posted by miguel
                Originally posted by gh
                Think Category 5.
                Well, if that was an answer I didn't get it ops:
                Were there 'helpful' winds?

                your choice....

                from http://www.team75plus.com shortly before the competition started ...


                no rain, strong right-back wind, 13 degrees in Celsius.

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                • #9
                  Re: DT, Kruger 69.97 in Helsingborg

                  Originally posted by pela2
                  Originally posted by miguel
                  67.63 Rutger Smith NED NR
                  Isn't Erik De Bruin the NR-holder for Holland with 68.12? :?
                  You're right, my mistake.
                  Menade PR, skrev NR, fast jag menade PB...

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                  • #10
                    Re: DT, Kruger 69.97 in Helsingborg

                    Originally posted by miguel
                    Originally posted by pela2
                    Originally posted by miguel
                    67.63 Rutger Smith NED NR
                    Isn't Erik De Bruin the NR-holder for Holland with 68.12? :?
                    You're right, my mistake.
                    Menade PR, skrev NR, fast jag menade PB...

                    mm, jag trodde nog det var så, men var inte säker. Trodde nästan att du inte hade någon koll ett tag där

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                    • #11
                      73.38 2006 Gerd Kanter
                      70.82 2006 Aleksander Tammert
                      66.56 2007 Märt Israel PB in Helsingborg

                      Not too bad from a country with a population of 1.5 million

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by miguel
                        73.38 2006 Gerd Kanter
                        70.82 2006 Aleksander Tammert
                        66.56 2007 Märt Israel PB in Helsingborg

                        Not too bad from a country with a population of 1.5 million
                        also include

                        65.34 1981 Kalev Külv
                        64.54 1977 Veljo Kuusemäe
                        61.96 1972 Enn Eriksson
                        60.22 1976 Ants Paju
                        59.94 1974 Ilo Sepp
                        59.30 1984 Urmas Rahnel
                        58.77 2005 Raigo Toompuu
                        58.76 1975 Ants Savest
                        58.00 2004 Marti Soosaar

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                        • #13
                          Tack pela.

                          Did Bruch and Fernholm ever compete against each other or was it two different generations?
                          Skåne looks like a Mekka for DT, at least when you look at the results.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by miguel
                            Tack pela.

                            Did Bruch and Fernholm ever compete against each other or was it two different generations?
                            Skåne looks like a Mekka for DT, at least when you look at the results.
                            Well, Ricky is born '46 and Stefan was born '59.

                            Looking very quickly into my stats I conclude if they ever competed against once each other it must have been in 83-84.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by miguel
                              Skåne looks like a Mekka for DT, at least when you look at the results.
                              Skåne might be good but not as good as Hawaii... just look at what people who didn't make it to WC final throw there: http://www.tilastopaja.org/db/resultsba ... ankings=20

                              Also I think that California is a very good place for discus throwing, not so much based on Americans' or Estonians' many good results there (although they too are pretty telling) as this, from Salinas this year:

                              2 Niklas Arrhenius SWE 10.9.82 65.77 PB

                              I remember him as a 59m guy in normal wind conditions...

                              I might credit third place to Skåne but no better.

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