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  • Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

    To my opinion, here are some of the top-5
    mythical barriers to be broken within more or
    less 20 years:

    a- 400m/sub-43"
    b- Long jump/9m00
    c- High jump/2m50
    d- mile/3'40"
    e- marathon/2 hours

    Am I realistic?

  • #2
    Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

    I'd also put the 1:40 800 on that list...

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    • #3
      Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

      "- 400m/sub-43"
      b- Long jump/9m00
      c- High jump/2m50
      d- mile/3'40"
      e- marathon/2 hours

      Am I realistic?"

      For what it's worth, in order of likelihood:

      a and b tied, followed by e, then c and d tied. I think we'll see a (Bolt), b (no idea who) and with a decently expanded lifespan (to around 150 years) maybe the others.

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      • #4
        Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

        <For what it's worth, in order of likelihood:
        a and b tied, followed by e, then c and d tied. I think we'll see a (Bolt), b (no idea who) and with a decently expanded lifespan (to around 150 years) maybe the others.>

        Can't see a sub 2:00 marathon before a sub 3:40 mile. The 9.00 LJ and 2.50 HJ seem unlikely now, with no really superior talents on the horizon. As posted by someone else, the sub 1:40 800 should also be added to the original list. Interesting that all "events" are for men. I wonder why? Hmmmm.

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        • #5
          Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

          Hah! That's because the women's "ultimates" have already been surpassed!! Back to the future, or something like that!

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          • #6
            Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

            No, the sub 12 100mh is possible, Devers in her prime on the right day could have done it. It will be done soon, as well as the sub 52 400mh.

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            • #7
              Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

              Hmmm?...
              There is no sexism at all. I was talking about
              mythical barriers concerning all human beings.
              Women pretendants are of course more than welcome
              to the challenge...

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              • #8
                Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                <Hmmm?...
                There is no sexism at all. >

                No sexism implied. I am more "in tune" with kuha1's ideas on this thread.

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                • #9
                  Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                  For me the last barriers would have to be;

                  MEN (Current Record in brackets)
                  100m; 9.70s (9.78s)
                  800m; 1m:40.00s (1m:41.11s)
                  2000m; 4m:40.00s (4m:44.79s)
                  Javelin; 100.00m (98.48m)

                  WOMEN (Current Record in brackets)
                  JT; 72.00m (71.54m)
                  HT; 77.00m (76.07m)
                  Marathon; 2:15:00 (2:15:25)

                  Anymore anyone else?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                    Bonjour, The King of stats. It's been a long
                    time! I don't know what happened to Mo Greene's
                    board, but what a disaster!...
                    Hope to read you more often on this forum, to
                    share your encyclopedic knowledge of statistics.
                    About what I name a mythical barrier, I think
                    this should include only Olympic events,except
                    the very prestigious mile record.
                    So, I think there is nothing mythical about any
                    2000m broken barrier...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                      I think that 250 HJ is the least likely to be broken even in 2 generations.
                      "A beautiful theory killed by an ugly fact."
                      by Thomas Henry Huxley

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                      • #12
                        Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                        Strange that everytime I watch some NBA basket
                        matches I cannot refrain from thinking that among
                        all these superb athletes there is certainly
                        at least one supertalent who would be potentially
                        superior than Sotomayor's (2m44 WR)...
                        So many talents lost for high jump. But this is
                        another story.
                        And I hope we shall be still alive to watch the
                        first 2m50 athlete even if these 6cm look
                        himalayan...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                          "No, the sub 12 100mh is possible, Devers in her prime on the right day could have done it."

                          Hurdles guru Brent McFarlane said years ago that he believed we'd see a sub-12. I think I may give him a call and see if he thinks he will still live to see that day.

                          As far as Devers in her prime goes, the question would be, "in her prime for what?". Since it would have appeared from her tumble in Barcelona that the problem was an inability to control her speed, it may, ironically, be the case that as she has slowed on the flat, she has gotten better over the barriers.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                            I meant to add: Another reason I believe we should be seriously considering a 110 event for women. And no, not with 42" barriers

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                            • #15
                              Re: Last most impressive T&F mythical barriers?

                              Discussing a sub-12 100mh brought to mind a basic question: are sprint records broken by faster leg speed (quicker turn over with the same number of steps) or by increased strength producing longer stride length with the same turn over rate?

                              In a hurdles race, due to the placement of the barriers, no advantage in time is gained by increased stride length (unless a person could TWO step !!!). And it seems doubtful that technique over the barriers will become much more efficient. So is hurdles record improvement contingent on quicker turn over rates and how much quicker can people get? Does this suggest that short hurdles races are more limited in potential future WR improvements than other events?

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