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**Guest** · 12-09-2003, 04:03 AM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

sorry i didnt include this..

the injury happened from incorrect form while doing weights..

I know what its from, i just need to know how to heal it..

The chiropracter is a runner.. the orthopedist is foreign and doesnt understand.. at least in my town.. so uhh.. Im going with the runner..

But i do greatly apreciate the response!

thanks

**Guest** · 12-09-2003, 12:41 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

See a doctor that specializes in the Knee. Many orthopedic surgeons have private pratices where they see many people complaining of knee pain. Don't run through knee pain you will only cause damage.
There are so many variable that can effect the health of your knee that would make an online diagnosis hard.

**Guest** · 12-09-2003, 01:35 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

Tyrone,

I'm not a specialist but I would recommend that you try the following for a few weeks, I've done it and it helps me.

I assume you lift weights on a regular basis (you mentioned lifting). One common problem many runners and sprinters have is with an imbalance between quadricep and hamstring stregnth. This can cause the muscles to hold the knee in improper positions, especially later in the day when the muscles get tired. This can ocur from imprper lifting or even just from the type of courses you run or workouts you do.

A good rule of thumb is that when doing quadricep extensions and hamstring curls that you want to use at least 75% of the weight when you do the hamstrings that you use when you do the quads. Any less and your hamstrings are too weak in comparison and cause knee problems or hamstring pulls when sprinting.

If you do alot of leg work (lifting), pull back some and make sure you have a proper ham/quad mix. Many people neglect the hams when lifting weights as quads are the show muscles and there are more well known exersizes to do for them.

If you don't lift much start doing some light leg extensions and hamstring curls at the GYM or if you can't get to a GYM with some leg weights at home.

I've given similar advice to dozens of fellow runners with knee problems and it has significantly helped over 80% of them.

If may be worth a try before shelling out the dollars for a specialist.

Best of luck,

Mark

**michael lewis** · 12-10-2003, 01:55 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

Knee problems can sometimes require the use of orthotics for correction. You can go to an orthotics specialist, they make a moulded implant which slips into the shoe and corrects the movement which is causing the knee pain. But it is a bit pricey, I am looking at around 540Can to get it done right now.

**Guest** · 12-10-2003, 02:10 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

Ultrarunner is dead on with his ham/quad notes above - most runners have a little imbalance anyway, and make it worse by using too much weight on quad extensions.

I would also add that if you can pinpoint the cause of the injury (weight training) it is likely acute, not chronic, and you in fact DID injure a ligament/tendon. If it continues I would shop for another doctor who is willing to order more tests (MRI, etc.) if necessary. Until then, I wouldn't lift on it at all.

Good luck.

**Guest** · 12-10-2003, 02:13 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

>The chiropracter is a runner.. the orthopedist >is foreign and doesnt
>understand.. at least in my town.. so uhh.. Im >going with the runner..

Ty, doesn't "chiropractor" mean anything to you? Just hearing the word should be accompanied by the Jason (Friday the 13th) "che-che-che-che-ha-ha-ha-ha" soundtrack echo.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TYRONE, GET AWAY FROM THE QUACK AND RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!

Find an orthopedist who speaks English before you do anything else. Would you take your car to a guy who can't speak English?

Good luck.

**eldrick** · 12-10-2003, 02:31 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

pain affecting both knees & especially worse going up stairs is likely patella tendonitis,where rest,physio & good anti-inflammatories like diclofenac or vioxx (for "delicate" stomachs) would help.

however pain on one side of the knee suggessts something more serious:if it's worse on twisting it may be a meniscal(cartilage) tear,whereas if it hurts on pure side-to-side movement(with no twisting involved) it is more likely a ligamentous injury.

either way you are wasting your time if you are still reading this: you should be halfway to the door of an orthopaedic specialist:this requires X-ray,MRI scan & possible arthroscopy - go to it!

**Guest** · 12-10-2003, 02:59 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

If you log on to a message board rather than consulting a doctor then you must be looking for mensa's advice. Think about locking yourself in a clear plexiglass box for 30 days. Use yoga to get your nutrients from the sun, like a plant. You'll be back to running in know time.

**Guest** · 12-10-2003, 04:41 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

Pour some robitussin on them.

Then eat two chocolate chip cookies and call me in the morning.

**The King** · 12-10-2003, 06:41 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

>sorry i didnt include this..

the injury happened from incorrect form while
>doing weights..

Could possibly be tendonitis.
I remember Maurice Greene had it 2001, he said that the problem had occurred when he tried to catch up on some missed weight seesions, he overdid and ended up with tendonitis in his left knee. He had to wear a kind-of sweat band below his left knee to restrict the pain.
This lead to part of his breakdown within the 2001 Edmonton WCH Men's 100m final (a 'supposed' torn right quadricept and a pulled right hamstring were the other causes. Mo actually inflamed the tendonitis through puhsing his body to his ultimate limits during this race)

If you have got tendonitis, which is a possibilty, the spray on this webpage seems very useful from sufferers of tendonitis:
http://www.reliefmart.com/Therapain_Plu ... onitis.htm

Information on Muscle & Tendon problems from Weightlifting:
http://www.bragmanhealth.com/books/sports/ch33.html

If you scroll down the page that it mentions the 'RUNNER'S KNEE PAIN'
From the page;
'Runner's knee can become quite aggravated by repetitions of squats, leg extensions, and leg presses. If the front part of the knee begins to hurt, you should stop doing squats until the pain subsides.'

**Guest** · 12-10-2003, 08:42 PM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

>Pour some robitussin on them.

You must be Chris Rock's uncle.

**jhc68** · 12-11-2003, 04:59 AM

Re: Knees are messed up, if you know anything about knees...

"If you have got tendonitis, which is a possibilty, the spray on this webpage seems very useful from sufferers of tendonitis" lordy, spray on relief from tendonitis? Must be the aerosol form of robutussin...

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