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  • #16
    Re: too much Gabe?

    Sure, Gabe's a little on the wacko side, but all this negativity is a mind-frell. Please consider two facts:

    1. Tehre's certainly nobody who posts about him (here or elsewhre) who has half his talent. (Half? make that 1%, you losers)

    2. There's no more than handful of you slugs who'd jump on a bike and ride thousands and thousands of miles through dangerous country--not speaking the language I've heard--just to seek out a way to improve his running style.

    The cat's got talent & motivation. Call back when you have either in equal measure.

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    • #17
      Re: too much Gabe?

      Gabe is great or at least he was, but I think there might be a problem here, while other world class or national class athletes are getting ready for this championship year, and next years olympic year by doing speed miles strenght etc. Gabe is riding his bike to some far distance country, getting hurt and not training well. How is he ever going to compete well, against guys like Webb who are training very hard. He is hopefully planing on doing something to get in running shape, heres hoping that I am wrong and he comes through big!!

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      • #18
        Re: too much Gabe?

        i don't think gabe will get back to where he was in 2000. he didn't even qualify out of his semi-final heat last season for the outdoor ncaa's. i hope don sage wins that event again this year.

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        • #19
          Re: too much Gabe?

          Gabe Jennings is defintely working on strength.
          He has been recently seen riding a tandem bicycle
          through the Andes Mountains with a blue yeti in tow. Similar to the kind Sir Edmund Hillary saw on Everest. Strangely though the yeti (which translated means bluefurballcaughtinmythroat) is wearing a Harlem Globetrotters uniform while Gabe is au natural. Mr. Jennings is inquiring about the whereabouts of the local sweating tents and the yeti has been mocking him saying ,"if you are a music major or is it math than I'm Beethoven."

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          • #20
            Re: too much Gabe?

            > he didn't even qualify out of his semi-final heat last season for the outdoor ncaa's.

            See the comment above that the cat's got talent and motivation. He wasn't motivated in 2001, 2002. I believe he's getting it back. His talent is indisputable. I just don't see any other U.S. milers at the moment, Krum aside, with the flair that makes them go-for-the-jugular winners. Webb had it, but I think the expectations have gotten to him. He could put it back together.

            Gabe knows he's got a long way to go to step up to true world class, but give him credit for at least being honest about the fact he has questioned whether he's willing to make the sacrifices necessary. I see too many other guys (not saying everyone) just half-assing it.

            But remember, McMullen, who I don't think is as talented as Gabe, came from fat to fit in a matter of months and made the 2001 Worlds team and final before drifting out of shape again last year. So to assume Gabe, who certainly won't be fat, can't do at least that is foolish.

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            • #21
              Re: too much Gabe?

              Gabe: love him or hate him (I'm in the former category), but he's a colorful character who attracts attention to the sport. Some would say bad attention, sure, but as a fan we all need athletes with some personality and flair to follow.

              If you were lucky to be around Palo Alto in 2000 to witness some of Gabe's races, it was an era of unlimited possibility. With all his bonbo buddies in the stands, you believed he might bust out and run 3:33. Hopefully he'll be back next year. If he is, you KNOW I'll be there to watch.

              BTW, here was his 2000 season:

              8:03.31i 5)Boston 01/29
              8:09.46i 11)Fayetteville 02/12
              1:51.00i 4)Los Angeles 02/19
              4:04.29yi 1)Mtn Pac 02/26
              4:04.52yi 1–h1)NCAA Ind 03/10
              8:04.96i 7)NCAA Ind 03/11
              3:59.46yi 1)NCAA Ind 03/11
              13:44.60 3)Stanford 03/25
              3:40.08 1)Mt. SAC Open 04/15
              1:49.44 3–f2)Mt. SAC 04/16
              3:37.33 1)Cardinal Inv 05/05
              1:49.91 1)Cal-Stan 05/06
              3:38.7 1)Cardinal Qual 05/12
              3:42.86 1)Pac-10 05/21
              14:27.06 9)Pac-10 05/21
              3:43.18 1–h2)NCAA 06/01
              3:37.76 1)NCAA 06/03
              14:14.79 11)NCAA 06/03
              3:59.91y 8)Eugene GP 06/24
              3:38.96 1–h1)Oly Trials 07/14
              3:35.90 1)Oly Trials 07/16
              rabbit 0)Stanford 07/29
              1:47.08 10)Gateshead GP 08/28
              3:38.05 5)Berlin GP 09/01
              3:35.21 7)Rieti GP 09/03
              3:40.96 6–h2)Oly G 09/25
              3:40.10 9–s2)Oly G 09/27

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              • #22
                Re: too much Gabe?

                Here's a late reply re: question about Berryhill.

                He's been quiet this year, practically off the radar, but it will be interesting. Berryhill made the switch to Warhurst late last spring. He had a solid European season, and finished as 3rd ranked U.S. miler/1500 runner.

                The system he's working with now is even more strength-based than what he did in college. Of course Berryhill is aiming for WCs this year and OGs next year, and he's got a good shot. And as others have said, each day that Gabe spends cycling in South/Central America, guys like Berryhill focused are training hard.

                Nevertheless, never count out "The Gabe" if he sets his mind to it.

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                • #23
                  Re: too much Gabe?

                  i want to see berryhill make the wc's this year.

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                  • #24
                    Re: too much Gabe?

                    forget making the WC htis year; how about somebody running the WC/OG A-standard of 3:34.90 at ANY point? That be a bee-itch.

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                    • #25
                      Re: too much Gabe?

                      I say Jason Lunn, Berryhill and Lassiter are the only Americans with a shot at the standard this year. Lunn is supposedly in amazing shape.

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                      • #26
                        Re: too much Gabe?

                        what about stember? what happened to that guy? made the team in 2000. last year he ran some ok 800s indoors but outdoors stunk it up with a lot of slow 8s. i saw him at usatf and he looked flat. if lunn is in shape, what about stember? don't they train together?

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                        • #27
                          Re: too much Gabe?

                          He had a decent indoor season (consistently right at or under 4 mins for the mile). The problem is that he thinks he's an 800 runner and it is fairly obvious that he is not.

                          He's given up his side job of tending bar (a bit in April TFN on this I believe) and being off his feet should help.

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                          • #28
                            Re: too much Gabe?

                            I saw Gabe run the NCAA's and the Olympic Trials in 2000, and even with the long kicks in both, especially against Kimani in the NC's, he just does not have the instantaneous speed to make it on the world stage in the 1500. His ego makes him stick with the 15 but his running style and tough mind-set, when he has it, make him a 5K/10K man with enough speed to make it on the world stage. As he progresses (?) he would be a real trip in the marathon. He is a loveable wacko and adds color to a sport that desperately needs it, but who knows of his bike odyssey, except those who frequent the pages and web-site of T&FN?

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                            • #29
                              Re: too much Gabe?

                              I agree with Franko. Gabe's a shuffler. Fast for a shuffler, I was amazed he ran 1:46 as a frosh, but still a shuffler. He can't change gears, or match the turnover of the world's top end guys. I also think there's too much of him in T&FNews, since he isn't running races. If he's not really training or racing, maybe a brief mention. But no articles. Save the space for someone TRAINING AND RACING like Krummenacker, or even Webb. Webb might not be doing that well at the moment, but at least he has captured the interest here and there of people that normally haven't paid too much attention, if at all, to the sport.

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                              • #30
                                Re: too much Gabe?

                                >I agree with Franko. Gabe's a shuffler. Fast for
                                >a shuffler, I was amazed he ran 1:46 as a frosh,
                                >but still a shuffler. He can't change gears, or
                                >match the turnover of the world's top end guys.
                                >I also think there's too much of him in T&FNews,
                                >since he isn't running races. If he's not
                                >really training or racing, maybe a brief
                                >mention. But no articles. Save the space for
                                >someone TRAINING AND RACING >>

                                Maybe all the follow-up stuff is mostly silliness, but if you're sharp enough to note Gabe's shuffling and gear changes and want to talk about TRAINING I think you need to read the original Gabe article in TFN closely.

                                He knows he has stride problems; thinks his hips are too tight. And--obviously after years of struggling with this--has come upon a unique way to try to fix it. Have you ever been to a beach and seen those capoeira people? You gotta have loose hips to do that. OK, so it's not details on how many 200s and how fast, but there was some solid "training" talk in there.

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