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  • #31
    Re: too much Gabe?

    Nah. Gabe needs to be doing real training, and real racing, like the other guy wrote. The season is kicking into high gear, and he's getting robbed by banditos, and putting in training better used in the Tour de France.

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    • #32
      Re: too much Gabe?

      No offense to Gabe (a Wisconsin HS graduate), but Wisconsin is about to produce someone much better ... Stevens Point high school senior Chris Solinsky.

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      • #33
        Re: too much Gabe?

        >Nah. Gabe needs to be doing real training, and
        >real racing, like the other guy wrote. The
        >season is kicking into high gear, and he's
        >getting robbed by banditos, and putting in
        >training better used in the Tour de France.>>

        Hey man (see, I can talk like Gabe!), Gabe doesn't care about THIS season. He cares about correcting the mechanical flaw that he (and posters too) feels stands between him and the next level. He's getting an incredible base (any of you cycled the Andes lately?), and if he has any luck, at the end of his journey he'll find the solution to giving him a stride longer than that of a Munchkin. And he'll have the mental attitude of a killer.

        He's going to be fresh-fresh--fresh next year (you know, the year that counts) both physically and mentally. Don't get in his way!

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        • #34
          Re: too much Gabe?

          No offense to Solinsky, but I doubt he'll ever come close to achieving what Gabe already has: NCAA individual titles indoors and out and a dominating win at the Olympic Trials.

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          • #35
            Re: too much Gabe?

            What is the bet on the 04 Olympics? I am willing to take some of that action.

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            • #36
              Re: too much Gabe?

              >Track could use more Anna Kournikova's. Anything
              >to get the general sports fan interested in track
              >is a good thing.

              Love Gabe or hate him, but he
              >generates a lot of discussion and excitement.

              Amongst track and field people maybe. Ask someone on the street who he is and you are likely to get: "He is that news anchor guy, right?"

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              • #37
                Re: too much Gabe?

                >Hmmmm... Can you make that lunch for Anna
                >Kournikova and me at my favorite restaurant... On
                >second thought, my wife might not appreciate
                >that.

                If you can get Anna, I'll take you to dinner regardless of the bet! We just will not tell our wives. Of course, neither of us are hockey players so I doubt we stand a chance.

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                • #38
                  Re: too much Gabe?

                  Gabe
                  >knows he's got a long way to go to step up to
                  >true world class, but give him credit for at
                  >least being honest about the fact he has
                  >questioned whether he's willing to make the
                  >sacrifices necessary. I see too many other guys
                  >(not saying everyone) just half-assing it.

                  To me, if you are questioning these things, you are done.

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                  • #39
                    Re: too much Gabe?

                    >No offense to Solinsky, but I doubt he'll ever
                    >come close to achieving what Gabe already has:
                    >NCAA individual titles indoors and out and a
                    >dominating win at the Olympic Trials.

                    When I interviewed Gabe before his bike trip, he referenced Solinsky. See below. Part of this quote, though not the mention of Solinsky, which I think is germane to this discussion, appeared in the original T&FN feature on his iconoclastic plan. I think Gabe will prove the naysayers wrong, but the great thing is I honestly don't think he cares about that. If he makes it back to PR shape and winning races, it will be because that's truly where he wants to be. Here's the quote that mentions Solinsky:

                    "What I realized was I need to make a major breakthrough, and I went back to Stanford and I'm struggling in school and I'm struggling with my personal relationship. All of a sudden the innocent Gabe that was just running for the dream with wide, bright eyes, it was lost. I mean it was a job; it was like going to work in an office every day, and it was a grind. Something told me there's something really wrong with that—that the dream, the major passion in my life, all of a sudden became a chore and work. I was still running the miles, I was still doing the workouts and my body was still toned, but it was work. And it was work for almost 2 years. Every race was a commitment. That's not how running's supposed to be. I mean I look at the high school kids, I look at Alan Webb. He's running almost as fast as I am his senior year in high school. And I look at Solinsky, the guy from Stevens Point, and he's going to break all my records if he keeps running like that. He's like, 'Toughness is my strength.' He's got all the confidence in the world. I'm sitting there going, 'This is work for me; I don't feel like that anymore.' So I had to go through a major psychological paradigm shift, and I'm just breaking through that now.

                    "Now my mind is ready; my body has to catch up. I've got this vision, these methods, the support, my parents—a blessing—a community, Stanford."



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                    • #40
                      Gabe hammered in letter to editor

                      Greg Welch of Aurora, Col., sure spoke for a lot of us with his letter to T&FN. Mr. Welch is a HS coach and says what I've felt, that Jennings is a terrible role model for middle distance runners in the US. I have to say also his interview on TV after his run in the Olympics was embarrassing for the sport. While Gabe is playing his bongo drums in South America, others are training to kick his rear end. Thanks to Mr. Welch for saying it better than I could.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Gabe hammered in letter to editor

                        Just encountered these boards, so I'm catching up on a lot of stuff..

                        This Jennings-Webb saga reminds me a bit of the Brian Glanville book, The Olympians...

                        Webb and Jennings would be perfect characters in a sequel.

                        Jenning's surely is getting a tremendous aerobic base with all his cycling, but then there's a certain specificity of training, and I wonder if his method will work.

                        I've got rights to the movie where Webb and Jennings line up in Athens at the 1500 final...

                        Well, it would make a good movie.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Gabe hammered in letter to editor

                          >Greg Welch of Aurora, Col., sure spoke for a lot
                          >of us with his letter to T&FN. Mr. Welch is a HS
                          >coach and says what I've felt, that Jennings is a
                          >terrible role model for middle distance runners
                          >in the US. I have to say also his interview on
                          >TV after his run in the Olympics was embarrassing
                          >for the sport. While Gabe is playing his bongo
                          >drums in South America, others are training to
                          >kick his rear end. Thanks to Mr. Welch for
                          >saying it better than I could.>>

                          Sorry. At this point, you're stuck. There are a lot of readers who are gobbling this stuff up, and we clearly can't just suddenly drop the whole saga in midstream.

                          While I share your thoughts that some of Gabe's TV interviews were a bit bizarre ("puffy turds"?) I'm not sure why people see him as a terrible role model. Far as I know he's not off drinking, drugging or indiscriminately spreading his seed in fertile ground, or blowing his inheritance.

                          It's a long-held American tradition that when you finish college, if you get the chance you pack your pack and head off to foreign climes for a few months before joining the real world. Gabe's doing that, and at the same time is testing his body to the limit and I should think developing incredible base strength (think Peter Snell and his "marathon" training sessions). Why does he offend you so?

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                          • #43
                            Re: Gabe hammered in letter to editor

                            >It's a long-held American
                            >tradition that when you finish college, if you
                            >get the chance you pack your pack and head off to
                            >foreign climes for a few months before joining
                            >the real world.

                            A travel article in last Friday's USA Today said that amongst people with the cash to do it, Americans are uniquely reluctant to pack up and travel before beginning a career. Last I checked, I was paying to read a TRACK AND FIELD magazine, not a travel (or stoned hippie) magazine. Paying quite a bit more than for any other magazine, I might add.

                            I'll just say that the updates on Jennings are the last we'll ever read of the guy in T&FN. They're good for a laugh; he has fewer wits about him than most third-grade children.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Gabe hammered in letter to editor

                              While I share your thoughts that
                              >some of Gabe's TV interviews were a bit bizarre
                              >("puffy turds"?) I'm not sure why people see
                              >him as a terrible role model. Far as I know he's
                              >not off drinking, drugging or indiscriminately
                              >spreading his seed in fertile ground, or blowing
                              >his inheritance.

                              It's a long-held American
                              >tradition that when you finish college, if you
                              >get the chance you pack your pack and head off to
                              >foreign climes for a few months before joining
                              >the real world. Gabe's doing that, and at the
                              >same time is testing his body to the limit and I
                              >should think developing incredible base strength
                              >(think Peter Snell and his "marathon" training
                              >sessions). Why does he offend you so?

                              He offends me only as an example for young American middle distance runners. He might not think of himself as a role model, but I'm sure many young runners look to him as one.

                              I wish young American runners had more single-minded, driven bad-asses to look up to. Perhaps one reason T&FN has had Webb on the cover so many times is to inspire young US runners.

                              I'm guessing too much of Gabe's energy -- physical and mental energy -- goes into his off-the-track lifestyle. Even when he's not on vacation. This is a hunch because I of course do not know what his daily routine is like when he's home. But I think if he concentrated more on running and less on bringing his bongo drums to the track, he might be a great runner.

                              I haven't been reading too closely, but it sounds like most of his workouts are on bicycle. I'm no expert, but I don't know how much bike training will help his running. I'm sure it's keeping him in good condition, but I don't know if it's even the same as marathon training.

                              Gabe the person does not offend me at all. I lived in Chile for two years as a kid, and it seemed like all of the teachers at my American school (Nido de Aguilas -- http://www.nido.cl )were kind of like Gabe. Great people and very interesting. I'm sure Gabe is a fine person.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Gabe hammered in letter to editor

                                wow!! gabe sure has sparked a nerve here.

                                I think we can write, it's his life to pursue, in which ever manner her pursues it. And whatever his motivations are, then he has to live with the consequences.

                                I'm sure the biking is giving him great aerobic fitness.

                                It's how be tailors that great fitness over the coming year or two which will define his success.

                                surely, he marches to his own drummer...

                                and ultimately his passion for running and training hard will dictate his success.

                                as to T&FN detailing his travels, these human side stories are nice to read..

                                sure I want the results, but some personality mixed in can't be all that bad.

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