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    Being a sedentary non-athlete, I could not contribute to the recent PR thread. I could only read it with admiration and a bit of envy.

    But guess what? Spectators have our PR's too. Mine are listed below. These are the best marks I've ever seen in person in each of the standard OG/WC events contested in the stadium.

    The purpose of doing this is not a competition. I'm pretty sure I don't have the best set of PR's in the world--I can think of at least a few friends who can probably beat them. But I know perfectly well that this is a very respectable list that most people won't match (although, Lord knows, lots of people have me beaten in particular events or even groups of events). So what? As I said, this is not a competition.

    The real reason to compile a spectator PR list of your own is to add another dimension to your enjoyment of the sport. Just as journeyman athletes get great satisfaction out of setting a PR, no matter how modest that PR may be by international elite standards, any serious fan who goes to a decent number of track meets can get spectator PR's on many occasions, often by seeing performances that won't make any headlines. And when you see a PR, if you're a hard core fan (as many readers of this Board are), you can really get a thrill out of it.

    Whether or not you want to share your PR list with the Board is up to you. But if you don't already have such a list, think about compiling one. You'll have fun doing that, and if you then take it with you to meets, you'll have more fun at those meets when you realize that you've just seen a PR.

    Here's my own list (* = current world record/world indoor record):

    Men

    100 – 9.58*
    200 – 19.19*
    400 – 43.03*
    800 – 1:40.91*
    1,500 – 3:27.65
    3,000SC – 7:56.94
    5,000 – 12:50.55
    10,000 – 26:43.16
    110H – 12.80*
    400H – 46.78*
    4x100 – 36.84*
    4x400 – 2:54.29*
    HJ – 2.43i (7-11½) (2.42o) (7-11¼)
    PV – 6.06i (19-10 1/2) (6.05o) (19-10¼)
    LJ – 8.95* (29-4½)
    TJ – 18.29* (60-¼)
    SP – 22.91 (75-2)
    DT – 71.26 (233-9)
    HT - 86.74* (284-7)
    JT – 92.80 (304-9)
    Decathlon – 9045

    Men Indoors

    60 - 6.34*
    400 - 44.52*
    800 - 1:42.67*
    1500 - 3:33.10
    3000 - 7:32.41
    60H - 7.34
    4x400 - 3:00.77*
    HJ - 2.43* (7-11 1/2)
    PV - 6.06 (19-10 1/2)
    LJ - 8.79* (28-10 1/4)
    TJ - 17.92* (58-9 1/2)
    SP - 22.31 (73-2 1/2)
    Heptathlon - 6645*


    Women

    100 – 10.49*
    200 – 21.34*
    400 – 47.60*
    800 – 1:54.44
    1,500 – 3:51.95
    3,000SC - 8:44.32*
    5,000 – 14:24.53
    10,000 – 29:17.45*
    100H – 12.26
    400H – 52.16*
    4x100 – 40.82*
    4x400 – 3:15.17*
    HJ – 2.09* (6-10¼)
    PV – 5.05 (16-6 3/4)
    LJ – 7.45 (24-5½)
    TJ – 15.50* (50 10¼)
    SP – 22.24 (72-11¾)
    DT – 73.04 (239-7)
    HT – 82.29 (269-11)
    JT – 72.28* (237-2)
    Heptathlon – 7291*

    Women Indoors
    60 - 6.95
    400 - 50.04
    800 - 1:56.90
    1500 - 3:59.75
    3000 - 8:29.48
    60H - 7.70
    4x400 - 3:23.85
    HJ - 2.05 (6-8 3/4)
    PV - 5.02 (16-5 1/2)
    LJ - 7.32 (24- 1/4)
    TJ - 15.36* (50-4 3/4)
    SP - 20.67 (67-9 3/4)
    Pentathlon - 5013*
    Last edited by tandfman; 10-06-2019, 09:11 AM. Reason: Update

  • #2
    Re: Spectator PR's

    Most of all I envy your free time and disposable income!

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    • #3
      Re: Spectator PR's

      MEN
      100 - 9.80
      200 - 19.66
      400 - 43.18*
      800 - 1:42.67i (1:42.80o)
      1500 - 3:26.45
      St - 8:01.98
      5000 - 12:52.79
      10000 - 26:49.57
      110H - 12.92
      400H - 47.03
      4 x 100 - 37.59
      4 x 400 - 2:54.20*
      HJ - 2.40
      PV - 6.05
      LJ - 8.64
      TJ - 17.99
      SP - 22.12
      DT - 69.72
      HT - 83.38
      JT - 92.80
      Dec - 8902

      WOMEN
      100 - 10.70
      200 - 21.77
      400 - 48.89
      800 - 1:56.11
      1500 - 3:55.60
      5000 - 14:41.82
      10000 - 30:01.09
      100H - 12.33
      400H - 52.84
      4 x 100 - 41.71
      4 x 400 - 3:20.65
      HJ - 2.06
      PV - 4.80i (4.75o)
      LJ - 7.49
      TJ - 15.25
      SP - 21.69
      DT - 68.57
      HT - 75.20
      JT - 69.53
      Hept - 7001

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      • #4
        Re: Spectator PR's

        >Most of all I envy your free time and disposable income!<

        I've been very fortunate in being able to travel as much as I have. It has involved some sacrifices, but I've gladly made them, and I'm now in a position where I can see the major national and international championships each year, and I do.

        But that's not the point of all this. As I suggested in my original comments, you can enjoy keeping PR's at any level. Just as you don't have to be Gebrselassie to experience the thrill of bettering your own PR for 10,000m, your spectator PR's don't have to be very good at all--you can still get excited about seeing one, no matter what it is. And you can certainly have a greater range of events as a spectator than most people can as an athlete.

        But you can't play the game without keeping score. If you don't keep track of your own spectator PR's, you're missing a potentially exciting experience every time you go to a good meet.

        So compile your lists. Use Peter Larsson's website to check your memory. http://www.algonet.se/~pela2/

        Have fun!

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        • #5
          Re: Spectator PR's

          It isn't a very impressive list, but I've never seen a track meet outside of Utah either--mostly high school and some college.

          100 - 10.54 HS
          200 - 21.09 HS
          400 - 47.01 HS
          5000 - 15:30 College
          LJ - 25'4" College
          HJ - 7'0" College
          TJ - 52'7" HS

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          • #6
            Re: Spectator PR's

            Obviously tandfman and I go to a lot of the same meets, since our PR lists are so close. Overall, looks like I beat him by 1 mark! I beat him overall in 4 men's events, he beats me overall in 3 women's. (++ i beat him, --he beats me) (and as in his, * =existing WR).

            Men
            100 – 9.78*
            200 – 19.32*
            400 – 43.18*
            800 – 1:41.24++
            1,500 – 3:27.65
            3,000SC – 7:59.08--
            5,000 – 12:41.86++
            10,000 – 26:49.57
            110H – 12.91*
            400H – 46.78*
            4x100 – 37.40*
            4x400 – 2:54.20*
            HJ – 2.43i (7-11)
            PV – 6.05 (19-10)
            LJ – 8.95 (29-4) *
            TJ – 18.29 (60-0.25) *
            SP – 23.10 (75-9.5) ++
            DT – 71.26 (233-9) ++
            HT - 86.74 (284-7) *
            JT – 92.80 (304-9)
            Decathlon – 8902

            Women
            100 – 10.49*
            200 – 21.34*
            400 – 47.99--
            800 – 1:54.68--
            1,500 – 3:53.96
            5,000 – 14:40.79
            10,000 – 30:04.18
            100H – 12.29
            400H – 52.61
            4x100 – 41.47--
            4x400 – 3:15.17*
            HJ – 2.09 (6-10)*
            PV – 4.91 (16-1 1/4)*
            LJ – 7.45 (24-5)
            TJ – 15.50 (50-101/4)*
            SP – 22.24 (72-11)
            DT – 72.30 (237-2)
            HT – 75.20 (246-9)
            JT – 71.53 (234-8)
            Hept - 7291*

            But enough of the this professional stuff: How about PRs from people who don't do track as a living?

            edited to update w/ marks from '04 season, which--damn his eyes!--bring us to a tie. He beats me in 4 events i beat him in 4 and we're even everywhere else.

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            • #7
              Re: Spectator PR's

              too much research would have to be involved to come up with a full list, and what's the use after seeing all of the above ?

              First and best remembered is Budd's 9.2 at 1961 AAU. All marks are from 5 AAU/TAC champs., 4 NCAA's, 1 Pan Ams,'64 sf OT, and '88FOT. And all that does collect some mighty fine marks !

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              • #8
                Re: Spectator PR's

                Great thread! I've not been to any major outdoor champs as yet (come to think of it, the greatest calibre outdoor meet I've been to is the outdoor British champs!). I have, however, been to several high-quality indoor meets so I'll include those. I have years ahead of me yet, so hopefully I'll be able to add to this list soon (the outdoor Birmingham Grand Prix next year!).

                Men Outdoor:
                100m - 10.01
                200m - 20.37 (20.20w)
                400m - 45.36
                800m - 1:47.51
                1500m - 3:39.12
                3000m - 8:07.58
                5000m - 13:34.17
                3000mST - 8:28.21
                110mH - 13.54 (13.24w)
                400mH - 48.68
                HJ - 2.28
                PV - 5.50
                LJ - 7.89
                TJ - 17.59
                SP - 21.55
                DT - 62.13
                HT - 74.40
                JT - 87.59

                Men Indoor:
                60m - 6.46
                200m - 20.62
                400m - 45.34
                800m - 1:45.69
                1000m - 2:14.96*
                1500m - 3:42.59
                3000m - 7:40.97
                2 Miles - 8:09.66*
                5000m - 12:50.38*
                60mH - 7.41
                HJ - 2.35
                LJ - 8.29
                TJ - 17.70
                SP - 21.24
                Hept - 6361
                4x400 - 3:04.09

                Women Outdoor:
                100m - 11.31
                200m - 22.83
                400m - 50.62
                800m - 1:59.86
                1500m - 4:06.44
                5000m - 15:05.48
                100mH - 13.07 (12.97w)
                400mH - 55.22
                HJ - 1.91
                PV - 4.40
                LJ - 6.62
                TJ - 14.98
                SP - 17.91
                DT - 59.03
                HT - 66.97
                JT - 58.45

                Women Indoor:
                60m - 7.04
                200m - 22.18
                400m - 50.53
                800m - 1:58.94
                1500m - 4:01.67
                3000m - 8:32.88*
                60mH - 7.81
                HJ - 2.01
                PV - 4.80*
                LJ - 6.84
                TJ - 15.01
                SP - 20.55
                Pent - 4933
                4x400 - 3:28.45

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                • #9
                  Re: Spectator PR's

                  Edited to remove now moot response to a comment that had itself become moot and thus withdrawn.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Spectator PR's

                    I used to keep a top-10 list of my PBS ("Personal Bests Seen")--talk about nerdly! I've let it lapse in recent years. The following is incomplete, but is what I can remember right now:

                    Men
                    100: 9.87 (and 9.78w)
                    400: 43.68
                    800: 1:41.24 (and 1:42.20, 1:42.47, 1:42.55, etc.)
                    1500: 3:26.12 (and 3:26.45, 3:26.89, 3:27.21, etc.)
                    3000: 7:25.16 (and 7:25.54, 7:26.02, etc.)
                    Steeple: 7:55.28 (and "7:53.17", 7:58.50, 7:58.98, 7:59.08, 7:59.18, etc.)
                    5000: 12:39.74 (and 12:41.86, 12:44.39, etc.)
                    10,000: 26:27.85 (and 26:52.23)

                    Women:
                    100: 10.49 (or "10.49"?)
                    200: 21.66
                    800: 1:55.19
                    mile: 4:12.56
                    3000: 8:21.64 (at the time, an unacknowledged WR)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Spectator PR's

                      I've got one that I suspect nobody on the Board can match, in any event. I've seen the 20 best men's 4x400m performances in history. Of the 101 sub-3 minute performances ever, I witnessed 89.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Spectator PR's

                        Since the extent of my Big Meet viewing is state-bound, LA and Atlanta Olympics, I won't get another chance to add to the list until Stanford finally lands the World Championships. Hurry up, I ain't getting no younger.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Spectator PR's

                          Here are mine, all from the last three seasons. What was most interesting when compiling this list is that in some cases, the most memorable races/competitions don't necessarily top the lists. I'm sure that's true for others as well.

                          100 - 9.82
                          200 - 19.98
                          400 - 44.42
                          800 - 1:42.52
                          1500 - 3:28.40
                          Mile - 3:48.17
                          3000 - 7:30.79
                          5000 - 12:52.79
                          10,000 - 26:29.22
                          Steeple - 7:57.38
                          110H - 12.97
                          400H - 47.25
                          4x100 - 37.77
                          4x400 - 2:57.54
                          Marathon - 2:05:50
                          HJ - 2.36
                          PV - 6.05
                          LJ - 8.40
                          TJ - 17.92
                          SP - 21.87
                          DT - 71.25
                          HT - 83.38
                          JT - 92.80
                          Dec - 8902

                          Women -
                          100 - 10.82
                          200 - 22.05
                          400 - 48.89
                          800 - 1:57.17
                          1500 - 3:55.33
                          Mile - 4:24.40
                          3000 - 8:33.95
                          5000 - 14:40.34
                          10,000 - 30:04.18
                          Steeple - 9:45.94
                          100H - 12.42
                          400H - 53.22
                          4x100 - 41.71
                          4x400 - 3:20.65
                          Marathon - 2:17:18
                          HJ - 2.06
                          PV - 4.82
                          LJ - 7.05
                          TJ - 15.29
                          SP - 20.63
                          DT - 68.57
                          HT - 73.91
                          Hep - 7001

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                          • #14
                            Re: Spectator PR's

                            Bob can you say what are the 5 best 4x400 you ever witnessed live or TV. Mine are:
                            1)Helsinki 1952
                            2)Munich 1972
                            3)Athens 1995
                            4)Atlanta 1996
                            5)Paris 2003

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                            • #15
                              Re: Spectator PR's

                              >Bob can you say what are the 5 best 4x400 you ever witnessed live or TV. <


                              That would require a lot of thinking and some research, because I've seen a lot of 4x4's. From your own listing, it's obvious that by "best" you don't mean fastest, and you're absolutely right about that. But coming up with a list (which I've never even thought about compiling) would take more time than I have right now.

                              For one thing, I've attended the last 35 NCAA outdoor championships, and I know that they've included some awesome 4x4's.

                              I can also tell you that my list would include at least one indoor race. It was a club relay back in the early '70's in Madison Square Garden (don't ask me which meet). There were at least three loaded teams and the lead changed hands more than once each leg. I still remember it as a breathtaking race--though frankly I remember none of the details--I'd have to look it up.

                              Internationally, one that comes immediately to mind is the Tokyo WC race where GBR beat the USA. Hated the result, loved the race.

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