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  • #16
    Originally posted by Riff80
    Georgia has it really bad.
    Only the top 2 in each event at regionals qualify for the state meet.
    Texas mirrors Georgia in this respect. There are 4 regions in Texas, thus the State Meet in Texas is finals only. The downside is that sprint filled Regions II and III may have sprinters or relays that are among the fastest in the nation, but finish 3 - 8 at Regional end up watching the meet from the stands. Some winners in the other Regions may run a far inferior time but they do qualify for State based on place at Regionals. The upside to the finals only meet is that the schedule is quick and run very efficiently.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lilwayne1814
      Originally posted by Riff80
      Georgia has it really bad.
      Only the top 2 in each event at regionals qualify for the state meet.
      Texas mirrors Georgia in this respect. There are 4 regions in Texas, thus the State Meet in Texas is finals only. The downside is that sprint filled Regions II and III may have sprinters or relays that are among the fastest in the nation, but finish 3 - 8 at Regional end up watching the meet from the stands. Some winners in the other Regions may run a far inferior time but they do qualify for State based on place at Regionals. The upside to the finals only meet is that the schedule is quick and run very efficiently.
      Georgia can top that a little (on the bad side). They run prelims in everything except the distance races at the state meet, and it's a 3-day meet. I'm still trying to figure out why they don't let more people qualify on a standards basis.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by lilwayne1814

        Texas mirrors Georgia in this respect. There are 4 regions in Texas, thus the State Meet in Texas is finals only. The downside is that sprint filled Regions II and III may have sprinters or relays that are among the fastest in the nation, but finish 3 - 8 at Regional end up watching the meet from the stands. Some winners in the other Regions may run a far inferior time but they do qualify for State based on place at Regionals. The upside to the finals only meet is that the schedule is quick and run very efficiently.
        Luckily TX is this way. Can you imagine all the sub 10.00 sprinters we'd have "qualifying" for state if we had qualifying marks?

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        • #19
          http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/track.pdf

          Not TN either.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by nmzoo
            As a clarification, New Mexico actually has a hybrid system. Athletes meeting event standards can compete no matter what. In addition, top 2 individuals and top 3 relay teams at districts also qualify. This means that if an event has a large number of mark qualifiers and these athletes do not compete at district (as happens to some extent), an event may wind up with a large number of entrants compared to and event in which most mark qualifiers actually competed in districts. New Mexico has 5 classes . Some events may have 20-25 qualifiers and others only 9-10.
            Thanks for filling us in on the details. I think the system is pretty reasonable way to take into account large travel distances, low population, 5 classes, and large differences in altitude around the state.

            Pat Palmer

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            • #21
              I like the addition of high performers being granted entrance based on displaying a suitably challenging performance. The toughest part of this, however, is what Cooter pointed out: How does the state organization differentiate between the real performances and the ones we all to frequently see reported in the papers? :?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kevin Richardson
                I like the addition of high performers being granted entrance based on displaying a suitably challenging performance. The toughest part of this, however, is what Cooter pointed out: How does the state organization differentiate between the real performances and the ones we all to frequently see reported in the papers? :?

                By only allowing it from performances achieved at whatever meet qualifies you to State (generally a district/regional type meet)

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                • #23
                  See the criteria at the bottom of my initial post. These are the criteria used in Colorado and seem fairly stringent.

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                  • #24
                    Bump. See front page story about Colorado doing away with regionals for a two year cycle. Apparently all qualifying for state will be time-based. A bone-head move if you ask me (but they didn't ask me).

                    edit:..and distance/height-based (you can tell I was a runner, not a jumper/thrower.)

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