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    Here's a quickie little guide I banged out (no guarantees as to accuracy) which shows you which events have competition on which days.

    OLYMPIC TRIALS ROUNDS

    (days 5 & 6 are rest days, no competition)

    MEN
    100—2, 2, 3, 3
    200—8, 9, 9, 10
    400—3, 4, 7
    800—1, 2, 4
    1500—7, 8, 10
    Steeple—7, 9
    5000—1, 4
    10,000—8
    110H—9, 9, 10, 10
    400H—1, 2, 3
    20W—9
    HJ—7, 9
    PV—1, 3
    LJ—1, 3
    TJ—8, 10
    SP—1, 2
    DT—7, 10
    HT—4, 8
    JT—8, 10
    Dec—3, 4

    WOMEN
    100—1, 1, 2, 2
    200—8, 9, 9, 10
    400—3, 4, 7
    800—1, 2, 4
    1500—7, 8, 10
    Steeple—4, 7
    5000—4, 8
    10,000—1
    100H—9, 9, 10, 10
    400H—1, 2, 3
    20W—10
    HJ—4, 8
    PV—7, 10
    LJ—4, 7
    TJ—1, 3
    SP—7, 9
    DT—1, 3
    HT—7, 9
    JT—2, 4
    Hept—1, 2

  • #2
    TWO rounds of the women's 400 on day 3, then a 4 day gap to the finals? :?
    There are no strings on me

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    • #3
      Originally posted by guru
      TWO rounds of the women's 400 on day 3, then a 4 day gap to the finals? :?
      Unless, there are not enough women to run the first round of the 400m, then it would be one race on day three and the finals on day seven. It would be a shame for the Men's 200 meters to run on the rest days.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by guru
        TWO rounds of the women's 400 on day 3, then a 4 day gap to the finals? :?
        Told you I didn't guarantee the accuracy! Tis same as men.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by guru
          TWO rounds of the women's 400 on day 3, then a 4 day gap to the finals? :?
          I believe the women's 400 runs on days 3, 4 and 7. And both the men's and women's 200's run on days 8, 9 (quarterfinals and semifinals) and 10. I really like the fact that there is no overlapping of any of the sprint events.

          http://www.usatf.org/events/2008/Olympi ... hedule.asp

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          • #6
            I think I'd go nuts if I were in the mHT or wHJ, each of which have a 4-day span between Q and F. That's a long time to sit around with butterflies.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tandfman
              I think I've mentioned this elsewhere--one interesting aspect of the medn's 800/1500 double is that at the Trials, the 800 is first. At the Games, however, the 1500 is first.
              So, why isn't the trials' schedule the same as the games'?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by maggot
                Originally posted by tandfman
                I think I've mentioned this elsewhere--one interesting aspect of the medn's 800/1500 double is that at the Trials, the 800 is first. At the Games, however, the 1500 is first.
                So, why isn't the trials' schedule the same as the games'?
                There are no relays at the trials for one thing.

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                • #9
                  OT is also 8 days of competition, OG is 9 (plus a marathon day), so an exact match would require killing one of the two rest days in the middle.

                  It would also make selling tickets a bit harder, because as noted, the OG not only has 4 relays, it also has a long walk and a pair of marathons, so that's 7 more events to sell to the public. Stretching out the OT to a 9-day schedule would make for some very thin evenings.

                  As it is, even with the 8-day, the number of finals is
                  1
                  3
                  7
                  5
                  break
                  break
                  4
                  4
                  5
                  11

                  You gotta be hard core to pay big bucks for a day/evening of track that has the minimal number of finals some of the days already have.

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                  • #10
                    Here's how the finals shake out at the two meets:

                    Olympic Trials Finals

                    Friday, June 27—no men; w10,000
                    Saturday, June 28—mSP; w100, Hept
                    Sunday, June 29—m100, 400H, PV, LJ; w400H, TJ, DT
                    Monday, June 30—m800, 5000, Dec; w800, JT
                    Tuesday, July 1—rest day
                    Wednesday, July 2—rest day
                    Thursday, July 3—m400; w400, steeple, LJ
                    Friday, July 4—m10,000, HT; w5000, HJ
                    Saturday, July 5—mSteeple, 20W, HJ; wSP, HT
                    Sunday, July 6—m200, 1500, 110H, TJ, DT, JT;
                           w200, 1500, 100H, 20W, PV


                    Olympic Games Finals

                    Friday, August 15—mSP; w10,000
                    Saturday, August 16—m100, 20W; wSP, Hept
                    Sunday, August 17—m10,000, HT; w100, St, Mar, TJ
                    Monday, August 18—mSt, 400H, LJ; w800, PV, DT
                    Tuesday, August 19—m1500, HJ, DT; w400, 100H
                    Wednesday, August 20—m200; w400H, HT
                    Thursday, August 21—m400, 110H, TJ; w200, 20W, JT
                    Friday, August 22—m4 x 100, 50W, PV, Dec;
                             w5000, 4 x 100, LJ
                    Saturday, August 23—m800, 5000, 4 x 400, JT;
                              w1500, 4 x 400, HJ
                    Sunday, August 24—mMar

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                    • #11
                      Would this be a better meet for the fans if it were cut down to pair of 3-day weekends, instead of 4? (setting aside a whole work week off, meaning burning vacation or taking two trips; meaning just the actual product that would end up on the field of play/on TV)

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                      • #12
                        absolutely

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                        • #13
                          no, not at all.

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                          • #14
                            The Rounds at the OT

                            Originally posted by gh
                            Would this be a better meet for the fans if it were cut down to pair of 3-day weekends, instead of 4? (setting aside a whole work week off, meaning burning vacation or taking two trips; meaning just the actual product that would end up on the field of play/on TV)
                            I agree. I add these caveats:

                            ELIMINATE heats in 1500, Steeple. & 5000. The U.S. has so few runners who make the OG "A" standard that it is a waste of elite athlete's energy to race against "no hope" athletes in heats (and semi for men's 1500).

                            In 2007 the OG "A" standard was met by six men & women (1500), 4 men & 5 women (Steeple.) and 10 men & 5 women, including Kastor, Goucher & Rhines who will run Marathon or 10K @ OG (5000).

                            Allow the 15 fastest (5000) & 12 fastest in 1500 & Steeple. to enter with no subs for scratches. Keep the 10K final only, but only use the current U.S. "A" standard because 10 -15 runners is plenty for a final. It will save $ and limit the meet to athletes who have a reasonable chance to make the OG team.

                            ELIMINATE semis in 800 & 400H. In 2007 the OG "A" standard was met by 6 men & women (800) plus 11 men & 6 women (400H). A few more in 2008 would probably make the standard to allow 3 heats for men & 2 heats for women.

                            The schedule would be good for TV. Men & women could run the same days.
                            1st Weekend:
                            Friday: 10,000 final
                            Saturday: Steeple final
                            Sunday: 1500 final

                            2nd Weekend:
                            Friday: 800 & 400H heats
                            Saturday: 5000 final
                            Sunday: 800 & 400H finals
                            none

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                            • #15
                              The U.S. had 10 guys at Olympic A-standard in the 5K last year, and that didn't include Lagat or Goucher! Far better event than you might suspect.

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