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[Marlow]

[re:Rowbury]It:s all good. 2.01,03 for Rowbury by end of july.

So am I the only one surprised she didn't break 2:00 at Pre? I thought that with the 4:01 already under her belt, and the closing speed and strength she showed, sub-2 would have been apiecacake.

[Jon]

Hayley Tullet was a sub-four-minute 1500m runner with good finishing pace (World Champs bronze in '03), but never broke two minutes for 800m.

There are loads of 3:59/4:00/4:01 Brits who have never broken two minutes for 800m (Jo Pavey, Helen Clitheroe, Yvonne Murray, Christine Benning, Liz McColgan, etc).

A 4:01 for 1500m does not necessarily go hand-in-hand with a sub-two-minute 800m run.

[Marlow]

A 4:01 for 1500m does not necessarily go hand-in-hand with a sub-two-minute 800m run.

yes, but didn't I read that she was initially an 800 runner, who finally got the strrength to run a 'decent' 1500/Mile? I thought her stock-in-trade was a blistering kick, indicating great natural speed, plus strength, commodities that sound like 800 material. (this is sincerely a question, not just me thinking I know what I'm talking about, because we've already established my lack of credentials, esp. in regards to distance )

[CookyMonzta]

Mutola 1:59.24; Schmidt 2:00.01, Clark-Riley 2:00.51, Rowbury 2:01.03, Teter 2:01.07, Price 2:01.61, Cumming 2:01.70

Where does that put Price on the all-time HS list?

[Jon]

Just because she started out as an 800m runner before making it world-class in another event, it doesn't necessarily mean she'll perform at a world-class (i.e. sub-two) in the event she started out in.

[Master Po]

Mutola 1:59.24; Schmidt 2:00.01, Clark-Riley 2:00.51, Rowbury 2:01.03, Teter 2:01.07, Price 2:01.61, Cumming 2:01.70

Where does that put Price on the all-time HS list?

I think it makes her #2, behind Kim Gallagher.

[EPelle]

A 4:01 for 1500m does not necessarily go hand-in-hand with a sub-two-minute 800m run.

yes, but didn't I read that she was initially an 800 runner, who finally got the strrength to run a 'decent' 1500/Mile?...

She:s always had both cards in her hand. She won the 2002 CIF CA State meet in the 1.600m (4.52,77). She won the 800m title the previous year and was fifth in the 800m as a grade-10 athlete.

[26mi235]

[re:Rowbury]It:s all good. 2.01,03 for Rowbury by end of july.

So am I the only one surprised she didn't break 2:00 at Pre? I thought that with the 4:01 already under her belt, and the closing speed and strength she showed, sub-2 would have been apiecacake.

I would have been (pleasantly) surprised if she had gone under 2 and was hoping for 2:00.xx and almost got that.

Again, I wish that Price would trying becoming a track runner rather than a time-trialist. She could easily have done 2:00.x if she did not go out so hard.

[dukehjsteve]

Now perish the thought that I am biased in favor of Rowbury, but I thought she ran a great race, make that a super speed workout race, setting a 800 pr by over a second. She appears to be The Real Thing for the 1500 at the OT's.

[Riff80]

Was anyone else disappointed my the "passive" races of the American's (except for Chanelle Price. They all want to sit back, and go through in 60. I would pick Price to make the Olympic team, if there weren't rounds at the Trials. She still might pull it off.

No because that's what I expect from the American 800 meter runners, men or women. They sit back and wait and think they can run down the leaders. It works when there are only Americans in the race, but it never works against elite international runners. I would love to see Price make the finals at the trials and take it out hard and kill all the other runners slow pace strategy.

[TrackFan 2008]

From my experience, it takes a few races to get your 800 meter legs going. I don't believe Rowbury has run an 800 race in quite some time. I also think it is a bit harder to run an optimal time when you are dealing with a very tight pack of runners. Especially when you are not running the 800 as your primary event. Obviously, based on the fact that the top 2nd - 7th place runners were within 1 - 2 seconds of each other, there clearly had to be some serious jostling going in the final stretch.

Rowbury rarely contested the 800 in college. That's 5 years of mostly strength based training. I would consider a 2:01.03 800 a great accomplishment given all of these facts. And I also think if Rowbury chose to focus her training on the 800, she would break 2 minutes.

All of this is perfect preparation for the 1500 meter race coming her way. Great speed work, great tactical racing experience, smart move by a smart runner.

[dukehjsteve]

From my experience, it takes a few races to get your 800 meter legs going. I don't believe Rowbury has run an 800 race in quite some time. I also think it is a bit harder to run an optimal time when you are dealing with a very tight pack of runners. Especially when you are not running the 800 as your primary event. Obviously, based on the fact that the top 2nd - 7th place runners were within 1 - 2 seconds of each other, there clearly had to be some serious jostling going in the final stretch.

Rowbury rarely contested the 800 in college. That's 5 years of mostly strength based training. I would consider a 2:01.03 800 a great accomplishment given all of these facts. And I also think if Rowbury chose to focus her training on the 800, she would break 2 minutes.

All of this is perfect preparation for the 1500 meter race coming her way. Great speed work, great tactical racing experience, smart move by a smart runner.

Well said. My thoughts as well.

Go Shannon !

[MCFLY]

I didn't watch the race, but it sounds like it went out slow. Rowbury's got a great kick in the mile, and she can run the 800, but that doesn't mean that she's going to be able to run a fast half mile time off of a slowish first lap. Regina Jacobs had a great kick in the 1500, but she would have to be some distance ahead of Maria Mutola entering the final straightaway if she wanted to beat her in the 800. I also doubt she ran all out. She's got her A qualifier in the 1500, and now it's all focusing towards the Trials and Olympics.

[TrackFan 2008]

nbc has all prefontaine race videos up

The Prefontaine races can be found at the NBC Olympics website:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/share. ... eload=true

Looks like there was some jostling going on between Rowbury and Schmidt with about 150 to go. Rowbury was in 7th with 100 to go and managed 4th place in the end so she must have been able to maintain and/or accelerate in the final 100.

Schmidt looked good, powering into 2nd place convincingly.

[dl]

Re: nbc has all prefontaine race videos up

The Prefontaine races can be found at the NBC Olympics website:

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/share. ... eload=true

Looks like there was some jostling going on between Rowbury and Schmidt with about 150 to go. Rowbury was in 7th with 100 to go and managed 4th place in the end so she must have been able to maintain and/or accelerate in the final 100.

Schmidt looked good, powering into 2nd place convincingly.

What do you expect when a Tar Heel and a Blue Devil race? :lol: