m1500 prelims - what happened?

[ponytayne]

What happened in heat 1? Apparently a fall? Two slow times advanced to finals on slow times, I can only assume such. Didn't Darren Brown take a nasty tumble in indoor champs mile also? Or was that another Texas runner?

[gm]

Maybe it's the age-old story... fall down, cry, get advanced
Or maybe not.

[ponytayne]

Maybe it's the age-old story... fall down, cry, get advanced .

That would really suck if true. The interesting thing is no one was DQed for causing the apparent fall. So, if someone has a case for being advanced to finals by being impeded or knocked down, then shouldn't the impeder or knocker downer (ya like that?) be disqualified?

[DrJay]

We're now going to 1000ths of a second for advancing based on time?? I had no idea. I get, for 3/1000ths, 2.18 cm at 55sec/400m pace, or 55/64ths of an inch.

12 Kurt Benninger SR Notre Dame 3:43.86q 3:43.856
13 Andrew Acosta SO Oregon 3:43.86 3:43.859

[Bruce Kritzler]

Darren Brown did not have indoor elgibility this year.

[tandfman]

We're now going to 1000ths of a second for advancing based on time??

That's been done by the IAAF, USATF, and NCAA for quite a few years. Nothing new about the procedure.

[Walt Murphy]

From the Texas website:

Nobody was more affected by the bumping than senior Darren Brown. He was near the front of the pack coming through the second lap, but was knocked to the track with about 500 meters to go. As a result of the fall, he finished 13th in heat one with a time of 4:08.32.

The Texas coaches filed a protest claiming that Brown was impeded and not given a fair opportunity to qualify for the finals. The meet referee reviewed the protest and ruled that Brown would be reinstated, adding him to Saturday’s final.

“We were able to protest to the referee that Darren did not get a fair chance to participate in this championship,” explained (Texas head coach Bubba) Thornton. “The meet referee agreed with our protest and added Darren to the final.”

[ponytayne]

Thanks for that Walt. I assume you are on-scene? Can you tell us how many fell and who fell? The reason I'm asking is because the kid from my alma mater (winthrop) Matt Elliot was well out of it, but i dont know if that's because he ran like crap or got caught up in it.

[trig]

We're now going to 1000ths of a second for advancing based on time?? I had no idea. I get, for 3/1000ths, 2.18 cm at 55sec/400m pace, or 55/64ths of an inch.

12 Kurt Benninger SR Notre Dame 3:43.86q 3:43.856
13 Andrew Acosta SO Oregon 3:43.86 3:43.859

I heard that Acosta fell. Any news on that?

[DrJay]

We're now going to 1000ths of a second for advancing based on time??

That's been done by the IAAF, USATF, and NCAA for quite a few years. Nothing new about the procedure.

Didn'y know that, but I guess you have to do it somehow.

[EPelle]

We're now going to 1000ths of a second for advancing based on time?? I had no idea. I get, for 3/1000ths, 2.18 cm at 55sec/400m pace, or 55/64ths of an inch.

12 Kurt Benninger SR Notre Dame 3:43.86q 3:43.856
13 Andrew Acosta SO Oregon 3:43.86 3:43.859

I heard that Acosta fell. Any news on that?

Thursday marked the last day of competition for a number of Ducks, and none suffered more heartbreak in not advancing than sophomore A.J. Acosta. The Oceanside, Calif., native almost fell on lap 2 before recovering to finish eighth in the faster semifinal heat. But his time of 3:43.859 was .003 slower than Notre Dame’s Kurt Benninger, who ran 3:43.856 in the first heat to gain the 12th and last entry into Saturday’s final.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml ... OEM_ID=500

[jney]

"Tie for Last Qualifying Position
ARTICLE 8. In the event of a tie for the last qualifying place for a
subsequent race, and assuming positions on the track are available, the tying
runners all shall qualify. If enough lanes are not available, the position(s)
shall be determined by reading the phototiming devices to the 1/1,000th of a
second or lesser fraction, whenever possible, and then by a runoff or drawn
by lot, based on a decision before the meet by the games committee.



AJ makes the final.

[26mi235]

"Tie for Last Qualifying Position
ARTICLE 8. In the event of a tie for the last qualifying place for a
subsequent race, and assuming positions on the track are available, the tying
runners all shall qualify. If enough lanes are not available, the position(s)
shall be determined by reading the phototiming devices to the 1/1,000th of a
second or lesser fraction, whenever possible, and then by a runoff or drawn
by lot, based on a decision before the meet by the games committee.



AJ makes the final.

Is that your conclusion or theirs? Since he was not within 1/1000th (3 of those little buggers), I am not at all certain that he is in.

1 1066 Leonel Manzano SR Texas 3:41.70Q
2 760 Andrew Bumbalough JR Georgetown 3:42.28Q
3 1030 Garrett Heath JR Stanford 3:42.21Q
4 1174 Evan Jager FR Wisconsin 3:42.41Q
5 1172 Jack Bolas SO Wisconsin 3:42.43Q
6 1175 Craig Miller SO Wisconsin 3:42.47Q 3:42.462
7 688 David Torrence SR California 3:42.47Q 3:42.461
8 941 Dorian Ulrey SO UNI 3:43.10Q
9 946 Jeff See JR Ohio State 3:42.51q
10 1110 Mark Davidson FR Tulsa 3:43.32q
11 1128 Andrew Jesien JR Virginia 3:43.66q
12 943 Kurt Benninger SR Notre Dame 3:43.86q 3:43.856
13 957 Andrew Acosta SO Oregon 3:43.86 3:43.859
14 1067 Kyle Miller JR Texas 3:43.88
15 820 John Richardson SR Kentucky 3:44.27
16 915 Lee Emanuel JR New Mexico 3:44.58
17 911 Peter VanderWesthuiz SR Nebraska 3:45.53
18 856 John Kosgei SO LSU 3:46.05
19 1028 Russell Brown SR Stanford 3:46.48
20 1111 Laef Barnes JR UCLA 3:48.58
21 687 Mark Matusak SO California 3:51.58
22 1169 Matthew Elliott SR Winthrop 3:52.68
23 1125 Michael Kerrigan SR Villanova 3:53.54
24 761 Matt Debole SR Georgetown 3:54.25 q-advanced to final
25 645 John Mickowski SR Army 4:03.68
26 1058 Darren Brown SR Texas 4:08.32 q-advanced to final

[Bruce Kritzler]

"Assuming positions on the track are available, the tieing (times to .01?) runners advance."
There is definitely room on the track. Think Oregon has grounds to appeal.

[EPelle]

Upon which grounds? He nearly fell, but didn:t (unfortunately).