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  • #16
    Re: No sub-10

    I think the advent of 100th-second timing has created a different way of looking at things like 100 PRs, because people can snip off a 100th there and there and make it look "easy." But remembering back to the 10th-second timing days and how people could go years without being able to snip off that elusive 10th (and that's what we're talking about Johnson's having to do to be a sub-10 guy). and I don't think you're giving enough credit to just how big a chunk that is. Particularly for somebody moving down in distance.

    Just my opinion, but I saw him run literally hundreds of times over a dozen-years-plus so I feel pretty confident in saying I don't think he ever could have broken 10 (under normal conditions). That's in no way demeaning his talent!

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    • #17
      Re: No sub-10

      I have no doubt that taking off a tenth of a second is very difficult.

      However, Michael Johnson ran 19.32 for 200m, with the first 100m (on the curve) in 10.12.

      He certainly could have broken 10 if he'd trained seriously for the event.

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      • #18
        Re: No sub-10

        < However Michael Johnson ran 19.32 for 200 with the first 100m (on the curve) in 10.12. He certainly could have broken 10 if he'd trained seriously for the event. >

        He certainly could, but only if he could carry around that optimal Atlanta track with him. Whats his PR for 200 outside of his Atlanta efforts.

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        • #19
          Re: No sub-10

          Well, let's see:
          19.71 Pietersburg, South Africa

          19.85 -- Bislett Games/Oslo, Norway -- July 6

          19.89-- preliminary round, U.S. Olympic Trials/Sacramento

          NON -ATLANTA RACES!!

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          • #20
            Re: No sub-10

            I think Gatlin is the man to do it. He has a sub 10 under his belt, and he has dropped a 44 low split at the Sea Ray relays a few years back. There is definitely potential there.

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            • #21
              Re: No sub-10

              >Well, let's see:
              19.71 Pietersburg, South Africa

              19.85 -- Bislett
              >Games/Oslo, Norway -- July 6

              19.89-- preliminary round, U.S. Olympic
              >Trials/Sacramento

              NON -ATLANTA RACES!!>>

              You've proved FORTISDON's point: throw out Atlanta and take away the Pietersburg mark as altitude and the "real WR" is still Mike Marsh's 19.73 from Barcelona!

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              • #22
                Re: No sub-10

                whoa nelly ! why are we "throwing out" Atlanta ??

                Is it a combo of 1( "too hard"(track) (but legal) and 2) "too high"(elevation) (but legal) ??

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                • #23
                  Re: No sub-10

                  I think Maurice Greene is posting here. Stop hatin', Mo!

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                  • #24
                    Re: No sub-10

                    some stats

                    Sub 10.00 PB with PB sub 46.00
                    Obadele Thompson BAR 9.87/45.38
                    Dennis Mitchell USA 9.91/45.26
                    Jon Drummond USA 9.92/45.55
                    Michael Marsh USA 9.93/45.08

                    Sub 45.00 PB with PB sub 10.20
                    Michael Johnson USA 43.18/10.09
                    Innocent Egbunike NGR 44.17/10.15/10.12w
                    Mike Roberson USA 44.71/10.07 ("closer" than MJ)
                    Kevin Little USA 44.77/10.13
                    Ja'Warren Hooker USA 44.78/10.18
                    Alvin Daniel TRI 44.84/10.10
                    Steve Williams USA 44.9m/10.07

                    Quincy Watts USA 43.50/10.17w
                    Cliff Wiley USA 44.70/10.17w
                    Willie Smith USA 44.73/10.20w
                    Kevin Little USA 44.77/10.11w
                    Billy Mullins USA 44.84/10.11w

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                    • #25
                      Re: No sub-10

                      you forget the man that could have made the triple crown: sub10, sub20 and sub44:

                      Tommie Smith

                      His career was ended at age 24 with PRs of 10.1, 19.83 and 44.5.

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                      • #26
                        Re: No sub-10

                        anyone remember Ja'warren Hooker (44.78/10.18)?

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                        • #27
                          Re: No sub-10

                          Mike Roberson USA 44.71/10.07 ("closer" than MJ)

                          Where/when does Roberson run 44.71? I think this is a phantom.

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                          • #28
                            Re: No sub-10

                            error on my part, I had it wrong in my database for Mark Roberson.

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                            • #29
                              Re: No sub-10

                              You probably mean Mark Rowe

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                              • #30
                                Re: No sub-10

                                Justin Gatlin ran 44.2r in April 2002.

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