More Rounds At Trials

[gh]

Some athletes will be running more in Sacto this year than last time. 5 events have an extra round this time: Men's 100, 200, 1500, 110H and women's 100. No event lost a round.

Here's a guide to what rounds are on what days (helps in trying to figure out potential doubles):

MEN
100 2, 2, 3, 3
200 8, 9, 9, 10
400 3, 4, 7
800 1, 2, 4
1500 7, 8, 10
St 4, 7
5000 4, 8
10,000 1
110H 9, 9, 10, 10
400H 1, 2, 3
20W 9
HJ 7, 10
PV 1, 3
LJ 1, 3
TJ 7, 9
SP 1, 2
DT 8, 10
HT 2, 4
JT 7, 9
Dec 8, 9

WOMEN
100 1, 1, 2, 2
200 8, 9, 10
400 4, 7, 9
800 1, 2, 4
1500 8, 10
St 7
5000 1, 4
10,000 8
100H 9, 10, 10
400H 1, 2, 3
20W 10
HJ 2, 4
PV 8, 10
LJ 4, 7
TJ 1, 3
SP 7, 8
DT 2, 4
HT 4, 7
JT 1, 3
Hept 1, 2

[Conor Dary]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

Seems pretty useless to have 2 rounds of the men's 5000. All the first round does is eliminate the no-hopers from ye of little hope.

[MJD]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

Aren't they actually trying, as close as possible, to duplicate the Olympic schedule?

[Conor Dary]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

If we want REALLY want to copy the probable Olympic schedule of our U.S. men distance runners than one round should be plenty at the Trials.

[gh]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

Last time an American didn't make the OG final (not including '80, of course) was '60; that's 9 straight with.

So who were the three shlubs who couldn't make the final in Rome? Clues:
one made two other OG finals
one was a barrier breaker in another event
one wished Gatorade had been invented back in his time

[Conor Dary]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

In 1960 one was Bill Dellinger. For the others I would guess Max Truex.

Here is a related question: Who was the third American who DID NOT make the final at the Tokyo 5000?

[eldrick]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

that's a bit worrying for the 200

it's difficult enough to get the 100 guys to double up anyway,but 4 rounds of the 200 is going to put some of them off

last year,mo & bernard scratched by the semis of the 200

i can see a situation where if some guys like the above + tim,jj,coby,etc. make the 100 for OG,they may lose interest in attempting to qualify for the 200 - they may scratch in the rounds or not even enter in the first place.this weakens the potential US squad for 200,as at his peak mo is a 19.8 guy(probably not nowdays),bernard is easily a 19.9 guy (or better),tim i reckon has fantastic potential over 200m

3 rounds of the 200 would have been better

[stevehj197]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

>In 1960 one was Bill Dellinger. For the others I would guess Max Truex.
>

Here is a related question: Who was the third American who DID NOT make
>the final at the Tokyo 5000?

It sure was NOT Truex; he ran a great 6th in the 10K final with an AR.

[Conor Dary]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

Well people do double and I did say it was a guess.

[stevehj197]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

>In 1960 one was Bill Dellinger. For the others I would guess Max Truex.
>

Here is a related question: Who was the third American who DID NOT make
>the final at the Tokyo 5000?

Oscar Moore

[Conor Dary]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

My, My. Stevehj is definitely on the ball. Do you know where Oscar Moore went to university?

[stevehj197]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

Bob Soth did not make the 5K final. And I am sure he remembers ( although fuzzily ) the 10k against USSR the prior year in Philly. And Dewllinger and Jim Beatty and Bill Dellinger were the other 2.

[stevehj197]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

>>In 1960 one was Bill Dellinger. For the others I would guess Max
>Truex.
>

Here is a related question: Who was the third American who DID
>NOT make
>the final at the Tokyo 5000?

It sure was NOT Truex; he ran a
>great 6th in the 10K final with an AR.

Sorry... mixed up.... we have to talk about the 5k not the 10k. Truex was our lone entry in the 10k, which had no prelim round.

[stevehj197]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

>My, My. Stevehj is definitely on the ball. Do you know where Oscar Moore
>went to university?

I remember he ran for the New York Pioneer Club... think he was some sort of an serviceman-type runner, not sure he even went to college... maybe thast's your trick question ?

[kuha]

Re: More Rounds At Trials

OM went to Southern Illinois University, if memory serves... Re: the Olympic trials schedule above, it just seems ridiculous to have our 1500 guys do 3 rounds. Sure, that's what they'll face at the Games, but so what? In other countries, the top guys get on the national team with NO rounds. The 5000 could be done as a straight final; the 800 could be done in 2 rounds; etc. I say: cut out the blubber and the busy work.