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  • nevetsllim
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    It's definitely her 200th because there are a few races missing from the beginning of her career, even though tilastopaja have updated her data recently.

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  • EPelle
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    Originally posted by croflash
    Originally posted by EPelle
    Didn:t this mark the 200:th sub-2.00,00 for Mutola in her historic career?
    Mutola’s first reaction was to glance at the clock. It was enough to tell her that she had broken two minutes for in the region of the 200th time in her career.

    http://www.iaaf.org/GLE08/news/newsid=47426.html
    I would say let's give her the benefit of the doubt and mark that the 200th time. :wink:
    Alas, 196 according to her Tilastopaja race history :evil:

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  • eldrick
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    from age of 18y to 20y she may put on 2cm in height as you still have some growing to do

    this will give her bigger stride & assuming her cardiovascular ability keeps pace ( shoud do ) she'll be quicker

    assuming she's now ? 5"6 ( 1.68m )

    if she grows to 1.70m, her 1'54.01 -> ~ (168/170)*1'54.01 =

    1'52.7 !

    if she just does a little bit of growing, the wr is hers

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  • croflash
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    Originally posted by 4 Laps
    I think Jelimo needs to break the world 800m record this season, she might break it in Reiti, Italy, the track there is suited for breaking middle distance races ...
    I think next year could be a little too late for her to break the world record or even break her own PB, the Kenyan runners are well knowen for having a perfect season or two then fade, although she is only 18, she has peaked too soon, only the Kenyans know how to peak at 18 then fade at the age of 20 ....
    I hope Jelimo proves me wrong.
    Originally posted by croflash
    The w800 aren't scheduled in Rieti this year.

    http://www.rietimeeting.com/info/results.html
    :wink:

    I also disagree that next year might be too late, there would be something totally messed up if she had peaked already.

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  • eldrick
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    they usually ran hard for 2 or 3 seasons made their money for farm/land back home & then tended to lose motivation

    jelimo is likely to be managed differently - she is a superstar & shoud earn enough from sponshorship & appearance fees to race more sparingly rather than week in week out that other kenyans do/did

    also, we do not know pamela's energy levels - this season may have not exhausted her at all

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  • 4 Laps
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    Originally posted by eldrick
    they usually peak older than 18y

    komen/ngeny were 20/21 at peak

    she's got plenty of time...
    I think the point I am trying to make is, the Kenyans have a vey good season or two, they win major championships medals, then they fade ! and you hardly head of them, Yes correct ,there are some exceptions, but Jelimo, using all her energy at a very tender age, surely will have a serious affect on her athletics career, meaning she will find it hard to run sub 2 minutes in a couple of years time. This is in my opinion as a middle distance coach, but then I might be wrong ...

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  • eldrick
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    they peak older than 18y - i don't recall any peaking at 18y

    komen/ngeny were 20/21 at peak

    she's got plenty of time...

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  • 4 Laps
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    I think Jelimo needs to break the world 800m record this season, she might break it in Reiti, Italy, the track there is suited for breaking middle distance races ...
    I think next year could be a little too late for her to break the world record or even break her own PB, the Kenyan runners are well knowen for having a perfect season or two then fade, although she is only 18, she has peaked too soon, only the Kenyans know how to peak at 18 then fade at the age of 20 ....
    I hope Jelimo proves me wrong.

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  • croflash
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    Originally posted by EPelle
    Didn:t this mark the 200:th sub-2.00,00 for Mutola in her historic career?
    Mutola’s first reaction was to glance at the clock. It was enough to tell her that she had broken two minutes for in the region of the 200th time in her career.

    http://www.iaaf.org/GLE08/news/newsid=47426.html
    I would say let's give her the benefit of the doubt and mark that the 200th time. :wink:

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  • EPelle
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    Didn:t this mark the 200:th sub-2.00,00 for Mutola in her historic career?

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  • catson52
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    Originally posted by Powell
    Originally posted by mike renfro
    Suddenly, Jarmila & Nadezhda don't look so uncatchable :shock:
    Yup, if Jelimo travels to Rieti next week, who knows what's going to happen? :shock:

    Yesterday she finally seemed to find something close to her optimal pace. No more crazy low-55s on the first lap, this time it was around 56.0, I believe (Klyuka was timed at 55.66). And she was able to maintain the 29-per-200 pace for the entire second lap (actually, 400-to-600 was just outside 29, but 600-to-800 was 28.89).
    Just looked at the race on youtube. The margins of victory have just been incredible. We are used to seeing the margin by which Coe and Kipketer won their really fast races, but from someone in their first serious year of running. All going well the WR will go next year. I find Jepkosgei's reactions in the races to be very interesting. Can't be easy going from being WC champ one year, to being beaten by 30+ m in races the next year by a total newcomer.

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  • croflash
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    Originally posted by Powell
    Originally posted by mike renfro
    Suddenly, Jarmila & Nadezhda don't look so uncatchable :shock:
    Yup, if Jelimo travels to Rieti next week, who knows what's going to happen? :shock:

    Yesterday she finally seemed to find something close to her optimal pace. No more crazy low-55s on the first lap, this time it was around 56.0, I believe (Klyuka was timed at 55.66). And she was able to maintain the 29-per-200 pace for the entire second lap (actually, 400-to-600 was just outside 29, but 600-to-800 was 28.89).
    The w800 aren't scheduled in Rieti this year.

    http://www.rietimeeting.com/info/results.html

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  • EPelle
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    Jelimo:s "secret" has been driving hard in that middle 400m, from 200m to 600m, as Powell stated. Soboleva has mastered that as well.

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  • Powell
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    Originally posted by mike renfro
    Suddenly, Jarmila & Nadezhda don't look so uncatchable :shock:
    Yup, if Jelimo travels to Rieti next week, who knows what's going to happen? :shock:

    Yesterday she finally seemed to find something close to her optimal pace. No more crazy low-55s on the first lap, this time it was around 56.0, I believe (Klyuka was timed at 55.66). And she was able to maintain the 29-per-200 pace for the entire second lap (actually, 400-to-600 was just outside 29, but 600-to-800 was 28.89).

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  • croflash
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    Some farewell facts on Mutola:

    It was 20 summers ago that a 15-year-old Mutola made her Olympic debut in Seoul, where she was eliminated in the heats. Between then and now she has been an Olympic gold medallist, 10-times World champion, and much more besides.
    In Beijing, she became the first athlete to contest five successive Olympic track finals; she was the first athlete to win four individual World Cup titles; she holds a record seven World Indoor titles.
    However, perhaps most remarkable of allis her 17-year ever-present record at Olympics and World Championships. She hasn’t missed one, indoors or out, from the 1991 outdoor World Championships through to the Beijing Olympics, an unbroken run of 23 tournaments.

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