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  • The state of U.S. women's 800 running

    Beijing was the first OG since Tokyo (’64) without a semifinalist.

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    We don't have the athletes right now to compete in the 800m. Currently, our 800m runners are for the most part, Mediocre quartermilers. (USA TF doesnt even list a 400m personal best for the 3 women who made the team). I know Miles-Clark was a 49.xx quartermiler. Not that our 800m runners should all have that level of footspeed, but it would definitely help. What we need is some of the women who are currently very good 400m runners, but just short of reaching the ELITE level to consider moving up to the 800m. I think it could make a world of difference.

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    • #3
      Paging Jeremy Wariner...... :-)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gh
        Paging Jeremy Wariner...... :-)
        I've been on Wineberg to make that move for 6 years now. Her legspeed compared to other sub-50.3 types(not to mention her build) suggests it would be worth a serious look. Prolly ain't happening.
        There are no strings on me

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Trackfan310
          We don't have the athletes right now to compete in the 800m. Currently, our 800m runners are for the most part, Mediocre quartermilers. (USA TF doesnt even list a 400m personal best for the 3 women who made the team).
          Why should they? According to tilastopaja, Clark has run only 4 400's in her long career. Schmidt and Teter have never run the event at all. They are more 800/1500 types than 400/800.

          Originally posted by Trackfan310
          I know Miles-Clark was a 49.xx quartermiler. Not that our 800m runners should all have that level of footspeed, but it would definitely help. What we need is some of the women who are currently very good 400m runners, but just short of reaching the ELITE level to consider moving up to the 800m. I think it could make a world of difference.
          If you think that 800/1500 types can't excel at the shorter distance, I would cite Coe, Ovett, Holmes, Masterkova, and Kazankina as evidence that you don't have to be a 400 runner moving up to win Olympic medals at 800m.

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          • #6
            Re: The state of U.S. women's 800 running

            Originally posted by gh
            Beijing was the first OG since Tokyo (’64) without a semifinalist.
            There are promising young (HS girls) and boys here, so not all is lost.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gh
              Paging Jeremy Wariner...... :-)
              ... or Ruth Wysocki, who hit this one square-on following the Trials.

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              • #8
                I've long thought Dee Dee Trotter should be getting the Wariner treatment.
                She's much more a strength runner than a pure sprinter and has the size for an international 800 meter runner. If she started now, by London she could be a real force. Past her, there is some good young talent, Alysia Johnson, Rebecca Noble and Preps Price and Roesler. Still, it's got to be a bit intimidating for these ladies to see an 18 year old Kenyans running 1:54, and know there are probably a lot more like her out there.

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                • #9
                  price got kim gallaghers records at 800..

                  and since kim was two bronze at 800, i'd give channele price a chance to do well

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by az2004
                    If you think that 800/1500 types can't excel at the shorter distance, I would cite Coe, Ovett, Holmes, Masterkova, and Kazankina as evidence that you don't have to be a 400 runner moving up to win Olympic medals at 800m.

                    Coe was an elite 1500m runner, not just "Competitve", thus he had the strength and speed to step down and be competitve. Same is the case with JW. He can step down to the 200m and not look foolish (Bolt notwithstanding). Our women 800m runners don't fall into this category. Hazel (and I am a fan of Hazel, I was on a team with her) has a PR of 4:16 in the 1500. That time wouldn't even make the IAAF list. I do not know the PR's of the other two women for comparison in the 1500.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by az2004
                      price got kim gallaghers records at 800..

                      and since kim was two bronze at 800, i'd give channele price a chance to do well
                      Silver and Bronze wasn't it?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Trackfan310
                        Hazel (and I am a fan of Hazel, I was on a team with her) has a PR of 4:16 in the 1500. That time wouldn't even make the IAAF list. I do not know the PR's of the other two women for comparison in the 1500.
                        Teter - 4:04.19
                        Schmidt - 4:08.89

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Flumpy
                          Originally posted by az2004
                          price got kim gallaghers records at 800..

                          and since kim was two bronze at 800, i'd give channele price a chance to do well
                          Silver and Bronze wasn't it?
                          Yes, it was.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by guru
                            Originally posted by gh
                            Paging Jeremy Wariner...... :-)
                            I've been on Wineberg to make that move for 6 years now. Her legspeed compared to other sub-50.3 types(not to mention her build) suggests it would be worth a serious look. Prolly ain't happening.
                            Guru, I remember you telling me Mary hated the 400m in HS back in '96. I agree with you, she probably ain't going to twice the distance :lol:

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by az2004
                              price got kim gallaghers records at 800..

                              and since kim was two bronze at 800, i'd give channele price a chance to do well
                              Price did not get KG's records. KG ran 2:00.07...Price 2:01.61

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