Decastar Talence

[Powell]

Kelly Sotherton is leading after day 1 with 3942 points - that's 4 points ahead of her day 1 score from Beijing. Hyleas Fountain is in second place with 3873, Oly champion Natalia Dobrynska third with 3833 - both well down on their Olympic form (187 and 153 points behind their Beijing scores, respectively). Karolina Tyminska and Anna Bogdanova are following, with 3733 and 3732 points.

In the men's competition, with no Bryan Clay in the field, Maurice Smith has come back to good form and is leading after 4 events with 3469, ahead of Andrey Krauchanka's 3441.

[nevetsllim]

Now WHY didn't Kelly throw 14.46m in Beijing?!

[dvorakfan]

After 5 events:

Smith 4328
Kravchenko 4307
Kasyanov 4252
Müller 4115
Drozdov 4065
Pogorelov 4046

So I think Kravchenko shoul win.

Does anybody know why Bryan Clay has pulled out?

[Rineanna]

Does anybody know why Bryan Clay has pulled out?

He said on his website that his body hadn't recovered from the Olympics as of yet.

On that note, how long would it take to recover from a decathlon? Even to compete in an individual event at a grand prix?

[imaginative]

Does anybody know why Bryan Clay has pulled out?

He said on his website that his body hadn't recovered from the Olympics as of yet.

On that note, how long would it take to recover from a decathlon? Even to compete in an individual event at a grand prix?

Hardly this long, if we are talking only exhaustion. Could it be that
he carries some minor injury?

(As a guestimate from someone who has never done a decathlon, around
one week to recover in normal circumstances.)

[26mi235]

Does anybody know why Bryan Clay has pulled out?

He said on his website that his body hadn't recovered from the Olympics as of yet.

On that note, how long would it take to recover from a decathlon? Even to compete in an individual event at a grand prix?

Hardly this long, if we are talking only exhaustion. Could it be that
he carries some minor injury?

(As a guestimate from someone who has never done a decathlon, around
one week to recover in normal circumstances.)

They say that it takes about a week to recover from a 10,000. There are a lot of 10,000m runners/champions that have raced well not too long after a 10,000 (a couple 5/10 doublers the latest examples.

I cannot hone in on the shortest time between high-level (championship-level) decathlons, but a month is probably reasonably accurate. There have probably been some trials/games doubles but little that is like KB winning a 10,000, then running heats and Final of the 5000. Of course, you then have a couple of stars that have gone on to 5th and first in the marathon!

[imaginative]

They say that it takes about a week to recover from a 10,000. There are a lot of 10,000m runners/champions that have raced well not too long after a 10,000 (a couple 5/10 doublers the latest examples.

I cannot hone in on the shortest time between high-level (championship-level) decathlons, but a month is probably reasonably accurate. There have probably been some trials/games doubles but little that is like KB winning a 10,000, then running heats and Final of the 5000. Of course, you then have a couple of stars that have gone on to 5th and first in the marathon!

After reading your post, I did a few Internet searches to educate
myself, but found very little useful. The way I reasoned was that one
week should be enough to correct all chemical imbalances (local and
global), repair micro-tears, whatnot. (To be contrasted with e.g. a
marathon, with a much deeper level of exhaustion and more actual,
physical damage.) Do you (or anyone else) have a few links with
information?

[Jon]

With one event to go, it looks like Fountain has got this one in the bag. She jumped 6.52m and threw 41.62m and is currently in first with 5585. Dobrynska is in second (after 6.35m and 43.95m) with 5535, but could be caught by Sotherton. Despite a disastrous LJ (6.21m) and a mediocre 36.83m JT, she has 5464. She'll need to finish around five seconds ahead of Dobrynska in the 800m to place second.

[bambam1729]

They say that it takes about a week to recover from a 10,000. There are a lot of 10,000m runners/champions that have raced well not too long after a 10,000 (a couple 5/10 doublers the latest examples.

I cannot hone in on the shortest time between high-level (championship-level) decathlons, but a month is probably reasonably accurate. There have probably been some trials/games doubles but little that is like KB winning a 10,000, then running heats and Final of the 5000. Of course, you then have a couple of stars that have gone on to 5th and first in the marathon!

After reading your post, I did a few Internet searches to educate
myself, but found very little useful. The way I reasoned was that one
week should be enough to correct all chemical imbalances (local and
global), repair micro-tears, whatnot. (To be contrasted with e.g. a
marathon, with a much deeper level of exhaustion and more actual,
physical damage.) Do you (or anyone else) have a few links with
information?

The standard orthopaedic teaching for complete repair of soft tissue injury (minor), such as micro-tears, is 6 weeks.

[gh]

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I cannot hone in on the shortest time between high-level (championship-level) decathlons, but a month is probably reasonably accurate. There have probably been some trials/games doubles but little that is like KB winning a 10,000, then running heats and Final of the 5000. Of course, you then have a couple of stars that have gone on to 5th and first in the marathon!

The gold standard in back-to-backs may well still be Jeff Bennett, who in '70 (while still at Oklahoma Christian) won the Kansas Relays (April 17-18) at 7712 and the Drake Relays (April 22-23) in 8072. So that's two world-class scores (by way of reference, only 7 guys broke 8000 in the whole world that year and Bennett's was No. 3 on the list) in less than a week.

Back when men were men :-)

[Jon]

Fountain wins (6473) from Sotherton (6439), Dobrynska (6429) and Chernova (6366).

[Powell]

Fountain thus wins the IAAF Combined Events Challenge, ahead of Chernova and Dobrynska.

[Marlow]

On that note, how long would it take to recover from a decathlon? Even to compete in an individual event at a grand prix?

The problem with Decathlons is not the wear and tear of the events - the athletes go through very hard training and can take it - it's the warming up and down from 10 events. When I did one at 40, I was more than up to each individual event, but doing them all day long and warming up a different set of muscles for each event completely exhausted me. When I arose for the second day, I felt like I was weary to the bone. Once I got going it was fine, but by the end of the 1500 I was toast. Three days later I was fine again. True, I was not competing at the level of these guys, but I WAS taxing my body at the same rate (or more) than they were, just as a 3-hour marathoner is actually working having to put out more than a 2-hour marathoner.

[mike renfro]

Now WHY didn't Kelly throw 14.46m in Beijing?!

Because she's a wanker :shock: Seriously, Kelly had a good year, and was close to avoiding the dreaded lead medal It might be close between Hylas and Natalya for #1, but the OG will probably be decisive.

[Bruce Kritzler]

Think Bill Toomey did a series of weekly decathons in 1969 when he was chasing the world record. Admittedly, he dnf'ed most when the record was out of reach.