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The women's shot should be the 5:00kg.
I am confident Adams will get over 18m
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woe is the world womens shot put ... it is in a slump, .....
hmmmm did not Val equal the WC record. Not denying the obvious but think ignoring Ms Adams achievements is rather strange ..
let's leave the weight where it is and give Val a chance to correct the history books
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IAAF has gone to the 3kg shot put for U18. I hope the USATF will do the same thing.
Rule Changes – Throwing Implement Weights – Youth Girls and MIdget Girls
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[quote=deuch]Originally posted by
Going from 4kg to 5kg for the women is too much I think. But 4.200Kg should be doable. That would give us a WR in the 17-18m (58ft ?) range. Just about where Tamara Press was 40 years ago. Nothing wrong with that.
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I think they missed an excellent opportunity when they did not change to new WRs at the new millennium.[/quote
Is 5kg really too much for the adult women. Vili is reported to use 6 and 6.5 kg shots in practice.
"Vili is throwing two extra-heavy shots - 6kg and 6.5kg instead of 4kg - which sink on impact."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/olympic-games ... d=10391311
Would she do this if she lost form doing it?
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Going from 4kg to 5kg for the women is too much I think. But 4.200Kg should be doable. That would give us a WR in the 17-18m (58ft ?) range. Just about where Tamara Press was 40 years ago. Nothing wrong with that.
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I think they missed an excellent opportunity when they did not change to new WRs at the new millennium.[/quote]
Is 5kg really too much for the adult women. Vili is reported to use 6 and 6.5 kg shots in practice.
"Vili is throwing two extra-heavy shots - 6kg and 6.5kg instead of 4kg - which sink on impact."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/olympic-games ... d=10391311
Would she do this if she lost form doing it?
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Originally posted by PegoOriginally posted by MarlowOriginally posted by ghSo one wouldn't expect high schoolers to be throwing the heavier one.
BTW, I am not making any comments on those '80ies putters, just describing what I saw.
With the Discus? 1.5Kg? With that weight they could aim for Olga Connolly's old Olympic record from '56. 176ft or 53.68.
At this point I think Women's Discus is the least popular of all the field events. If I was forced to eliminate events, one event at the time, the first to go would be the discus for women.
I think they missed an excellent opportunity when they did not change to new WRs at the new millennium.
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Originally posted by PegoOriginally posted by Marlow
This is where we differ. Look at the big women, Valerie Vili, for example. The 4kg shot just disappears in her hand. .
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Originally posted by PegoThis is where we differ.
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Originally posted by MarlowOriginally posted by ghSo one wouldn't expect high schoolers to be throwing the heavier one.
BTW, I am not making any comments on those '80ies putters, just describing what I saw.
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Originally posted by ghSo one wouldn't expect high schoolers to be throwing the heavier one.
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My bad on 11 vs. 12 lb., but the issue remains. I train our shot putters sometimes and the higher the weight, the less you can get it out on your fingers where it needs to be. An 11 vs. 8.8 shot, 25% heavier, will make the finger/hand snap at the end of the put even more difficult to effectively utilize, making it more like the rock you mentioned.
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Re: Women's Shot - How Far The Mghty Have Fallen!
Originally posted by MarlowOriginally posted by PegoJust look how they are throwing it. Like a rock, not putting it. I'll bet you another hot dog in Eugene that big gals like VV, MC would have nearly the same (if not the same) distance with 5 as with 4.
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5 kg is 11, not 12 lb. The increase would be 25%.
The men's shot weight is just right, increase would push it into a circus stage, slight reduction would not make much difference. Just right.
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Re: Women's Shot - How Far The Mghty Have Fallen!
Originally posted by PegoJust look how they are throwing it. Like a rock, not putting it. I'll bet you another hot dog in Eugene that big gals like VV, MC would have nearly the same (if not the same) distance with 5 as with 4.
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