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  • eldrick
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    Originally posted by Brettboy
    Besides, Kotrova jumped 7.42 and was nowhere near 10.9/21.7 form.
    that was more like 7.20 without the wind/altitude, which is still damn good, but not superhuman

    Speed for the LJ is about having a fast flying 30m, you dont need to run sub 11 over 100m.
    seeing as we have no flying 45m races, we have to use 60/100/200 as proxy

    Yes Kluft could well set a PB at still only 25. My other issue with her lately is her conditioning, she just doenst look as conditioned as she could be and seems to be carrying a little extra round the middle.
    stress fracture will do that to you...

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  • Brettboy
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    Originally posted by eldrick
    heike had lost her sprint speed by '90s but presumably compensated for it with better strength which allowed her to go 7.40, but approaching mid-'90s her loss of speed was catastrophic & not compensated enough by better strength

    for kluft, i have a hard time believing a 25y ole won't improve her pb in an event she has already shown immense ability in when doing it full-time & injury free...
    In 92, her best jumping year, HD ran 11.24 in May and 11.33 (-1.9) at the nationals later in the year. She always said that in 92 her form was her best for jumping, because she had the right balance of speed and control. You have to remember that in her sprint peak years she always said she had trouble converting speed into distance, so it wasnt always the case that being at her fastest meant she was doing the distances she was capable of. (Mid 90's she was 30 too, so her form was on the wane.)
    Besides, Kotrova jumped 7.42 and was nowhere near 10.9/21.7 form. Speed for the LJ is about having a fast flying 30m, you dont need to run sub 11 over 100m.

    Yes Kluft could well set a PB at still only 25. My other issue with her lately is her conditioning, she just doenst look as conditioned as she could be and seems to be carrying a little extra round the middle.

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  • eldrick
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    heike had lost her sprint speed by '90s but presumably compensated for it with better strength which allowed her to go 7.40, but approaching mid-'90s her loss of speed was catastrophic & not compensated enough by better strength

    for kluft, i have a hard time believing a 25y ole won't improve her pb in an event she has already shown immense ability in when doing it full-time & injury free...

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  • Brettboy
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    I agree with gh. I dont believe she will do significantly better than her current LJ PB even now she is focussing on the jumps. But her PB is enough to medal.

    When JJK focussed more on the LJ (94) there was no significant improvement on her PB (7.45 in 87....7.49 in 94) although there was a reasonable difference in age. But Drechsler was in a similar position, when sprinting and jumping her LJ form was similar to when she just jumped, (sprinting between 86-91 she was between 7.30-7.48. In 92-93, when just jumping, she was 7.30-7.48. In 94 she did the heptathlon and still jumped 7.29 & 7.39w)
    Gomez, on the other hand, has significantly improved now she specialises, although it has taken her a couple of years to find her LJ potential.

    If an athlete is in form, they're in form. Specialising does not always make a difference.

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  • EPelle
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    Block quote from 3,5 years ago, one I lifted from Aftonbladet following last Olympics:

    Quotes on Klüft from some of the world:s top sports reporters and editors, provided to Aftonbladet just after her OG gold:

    L:Equipe, France
    Celine Longeur, Track and field reporter: "...In France, we have been very impressed with her development and her precision in the big competitions..."

    Royal Gazette, Bermuda
    Gayle Alleyne, reporter: "...so blessed physically, and with completely the right mentality..."

    Record, Portugal
    Noberto Jartos, reporter: "...One day I think she can beat Jackie Joyner-Kersee:s world record, but not yet..."

    Gazzetta dello Sport, Italy
    Candido Cannavò, columnist: "...She reminds me of the old days, she stands for just such that ideal. She has just as much talent as charm."

    Atletique Magazine, France
    Cyril Pocreaux, chief editor: "...Klüft sees the whole thing as a game, and she is refreshing for the type of sports world we live in today."

    Morgenpost Hamburg, Germany
    Nils Weber, reporter: "...I love how she plays with the crowd, and it loves her."

    BBC Radio, Great Britian
    Matthew Alan, reporter: "...She has talent, she is nice, blond and charming. One must have a certain respect for her. She is almost too nice."

    Eurosport, France
    Daniel Constantin, reporter: "...Good, nice, blond, beautiful...You can be proud of her."

    Fuijan Newspaper, China
    Yixi Xie, reporter: "...I have heard that Sweden is a beautiful and rich country. Such is she: beautiful and rich in talent. I clapped when she got the gold medal. You needed it, we in China have won so many already."

    Verdens Gang, Norway
    Öystein Jarlsbo, reporter: "...It was nice that she insisted that all of the others should take the victory lap with her..."

    http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/sto ... 99,00.html
    No pre-requisite that one must appreciate any given athlete:s love and passion for having fun in order to have a personal enjoyment of the sport, but the aforementioned journalists have, and did.

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  • eldrick
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    i suggest you use your brain & look at my posts in light of the subject title...

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  • Jaack
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    In light of this article, I have been reminded f one more thing.....


    From a previous waste of time (aka a thread that included Eldrick) just before Beijing:


    Originally posted by eldrick
    in her best individual event by far, the lj, this year whilst concentrating fully on it, she hasn't been able to get within 10cm of her 4y ole pb set when she was a hepta !

    where's 7++ expected this year ?if she can't get any improvement in her lj doing it full time, i doubt she woud have made any great impact on an event she'd never even tried before - 400h

    Originally posted by jaack
    If that makes sense to you, then...good for you! I have no idea how much she has trained this year, but judging by her phisique, it hasn't been a significant part of her life. She's entitled to have a down year, or three.
    Originally posted by eldrick
    if she hasn't bothered training seriously this year, why is she even bothering to compete this year ?

    do you think lj gold is going to fall in her lap of 1/2-assed training ?

    you seriously believe she'd pick this year as a down year ?
    i doubt aristotle is losing any sleep...
    again.....

    Originally posted by eldrick
    you seriously believe, or expect us to believe she expected to threaten for lj gold with some 1/2-assed training, considering prior to outdoor season there were expected to be 3 ruskies at 7+ ???
    Originally posted by eldrick
    her lj this year [shows she would have no potential at any other event]

    Unfortunately there were about three more pages of this incorrect, inaccurate, insulting tripe. Then you come along here and shrug your shoulders....

    :roll:

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  • Jaack
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  • EPelle
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    Nice girl from Växjö. Small city. Hugely and immensely successful, talented and energetic. I need to dig up those journalist quotes from a few years back used to describe her when she popped up on the senior scene.

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  • eldrick
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    Originally posted by mump boy
    Originally posted by eldrick
    perhaps it explains her poor peking performances

    concentrating solely on lj & healthy, she really shouda murdered 7m ( & that's from a non-fan )
    how can you be a non fan of Carro :? :?
    never enjoyed her hyperactive, childlike celebrating when she burst on the scene - albeit she has toned that down a tad as she has matured

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  • pauluk63
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    More Kluft debates, fact is 1 x olympic 3 x world 2 x european gold meadles, why go back to heptathlon?? what is the need thats done! let her enjoy her sport, lets see what she can do in LJ and TJ hell if she wants to focus on HJ let her!!

    she could do something amazing in either, everyone knows the potential... if she never wins another gold meadle at least she will have enjoyed athletics and been hugely succesful!

    hope she gets well soon!!!

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  • mump boy
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    Originally posted by eldrick
    perhaps it explains her poor peking performances

    concentrating solely on lj & healthy, she really shouda murdered 7m ( & that's from a non-fan )
    how can you be a non fan of Carro :? :?

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  • eldrick
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    Originally posted by gh
    Originally posted by eldrick
    perhaps it explains her poor peking performances

    concentrating solely on lj & healthy, she really shouda murdered 7m ( & that's from a non-fan )
    Of course, she could have PRed in both the LJ and TJ in Beijing and gotten only a bronze and a 10th. She doesn't have the same kind of horizontal jump talent as she did as an all-arounder.
    i'd disagree

    she's got ?6.97pb whilst doing the hepta, so that pb was set of limited training

    if did lj solely, she obviously woud have a better pb ( assuming fit ) - it may not be a huge increase, but i see no reason why she coudn't go 7.10 - 7.20 & that kinda mark woud have a likely >50% chance of gold in any global

    we got example of naide who upped her lj significantly when dropping the hepta & kluft is a helluva better natural talent than her

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  • EPelle
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    ... and, if she didn:t, she:d be fine with that with not a single regret. To her, it:s about having fun. I think she perhaps has that tatooed on her forehead.

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  • Brettboy
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    Originally posted by jla
    She has never said or even hinted that she regretted her move away from the heptathlon and contemplated to go back to the heptathlon. Quite the contrary she has repeatedly been adamant in stressing how much she appreciates training for the horizontal jumps only.
    I definately read it in one article, regardless of whether it was true!

    I would like to see her to the heptathlon, but I understand if she doesnt. But she could end up never medalling again in amajor meet!

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