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  • #76
    Originally posted by Powell
    I don't see much progress at the top at the moment. Bekele's WRs have been completely unchallenged (even by Bekele) the last couple of seasons. In fact, nobody is running as fast as Geb, Komen and Tergat did in the 1990s.
    he ran 26'25 this year & said uncharacteristically he 'got tired in 8th km'

    he may have a serious go at it next year, when a wc means little, having already got 3 of them

    if not him, shinester, tadesse or even wanjiru ( if he ever fancied it ) are certainly capable of < 26'20

    if they fancy it on a cool evening in oslo/stockholm, someone will take 5 - 10s off it anytime in next coupla years

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Mennisco
      Wyomia Tyus was the first Olympic sprinter, male or female, to retain an Olympic title.
      Some would argue it's Archie Hahn, who won the 100m in 1904 and 1906.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Jake
        Originally posted by Mennisco
        Wyomia Tyus was the first Olympic sprinter, male or female, to retain an Olympic title.
        Some would argue it's Archie Hahn, who won the 100m in 1904 and 1906.
        Archie Bunker wouldn't disagree.
        Take good care of yourself.

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        • #79
          An 18-year-old Aussie girl just ran 11.33:

          http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 18,00.html

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Mennisco
            Wyomia Tyus was the first Olympic sprinter, male or female, to retain an Olympic title. Carl Lewis became the second...
            Well actually (if u include sticks) it was Shirley Strickland who was first woman..

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            • #81
              not that the 11.3 of Breen is anything new (see above...) but so glad Mike H is still reporting on aths (with Len J now retired there's hardly anyone with a clue left in the Aussie media)

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              • #82
                Originally posted by sprintblox
                An 18-year-old Aussie girl just ran 11.33
                But she didn't even make the final at the World Juniors.
                Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Powell
                  Originally posted by sprintblox
                  An 18-year-old Aussie girl just ran 11.33
                  But she didn't even make the final at the World Juniors.
                  you're only as good as your last world junior race....

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                  • #84
                    Breen is running in the Queanbeyan gift in a couple of weeks. I believe she won last year, so that fast race will hurt her handicap. I might make the effort to go out and take some pictures if any of you Australians are interested, just don't ask me to go to interclub.....

                    Recent article (not online) said she is training with Matt Beckenham's squad and is still in heavy training, so she should better that time easily by nationals.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Vault-emort
                      Originally posted by Powell
                      Originally posted by sprintblox
                      An 18-year-old Aussie girl just ran 11.33
                      But she didn't even make the final at the World Juniors.
                      you're only as good as your last world junior race....
                      Nah. Juniors are young, and I don't think it's so very unusual for there to be a significant performance improvement in a matter of months, particularly where the World Juniors are off-season, as they are for Australians. No reason why she shouldn't now be better than her last world junior race.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Powell
                        Originally posted by sprintblox
                        An 18-year-old Aussie girl just ran 11.33
                        But she didn't even make the final at the World Juniors.
                        so what... when Aussies start to view their national champs with equal or greater pride than they do a world champs you will see Aussies in WC finals.
                        ... nothing really ever changes my friend, new lines for old, new lines for old.

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                        • #87
                          There is something to be said for encouraging national competition and not using World Champs/Oly results as the only standard of improvement, but I still can't help but think that part of the problem for the Aussie sprinters is having to peak twice in one year. How many of the sprint medalists in the last few years have been at or close to peak in March? And the Aussies have to do this 3 years out or 4 (at least).

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                          • #88
                            I looked at the women's all time list and compared each 4 year period commencing in an Olympic year by number of performers as well as the average of performances scored using the current IAAF tables. Without any depth of world ranking information, this was the best quality measure I could think of. Hand times (+.24) were included if no other time was available or was more than 1/10 better than an athlete's electronic time. Click on the thumbnail for a full sized chart.

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                            • #89
                              Toro, sorry if this sounds picky, but:

                              would it not be better to use - for example - numbers of athletes at a certain standard (let's say 11.50) each year, rather than just ''years of the PB"

                              eg - 2000 looks like a low point in your graph, but we had 8 women at 11.50 or better that year, making it one of the best ever years for standards

                              and I reckon if it's by "Olympiad", the divisions should start in the post-Olympic year - eg 1997-2000, 2001-2004

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                              • #90
                                Australian women under 11.50 (inc conversions) - the early seasons are not calendar years - they're "Australian seasons"(ie Oct/Nov to Sep/Oct). Only athletes eligible to represent Australia are listed.

                                Can't find all years as my stats are all over the place - but here's a start:

                                67/8 3
                                68/9 0
                                69/0 1
                                70/1 1
                                71/2 1
                                72/3 0
                                73/4 4
                                74/5 0
                                75/6 3
                                76/7 1
                                77/8 3
                                78/9
                                79/0
                                80/1
                                81/2 1
                                82/3 3
                                83/4 1
                                84/5 0
                                85/6 0
                                86/7 1
                                87/8 0
                                88/9
                                89/0
                                90/1
                                91/2
                                92/3
                                93/4
                                94/5
                                95/6
                                96/7

                                98 5
                                99 3
                                00 8
                                01 1
                                02 2
                                03 1
                                04 3
                                05 3
                                06 2
                                07 4
                                08 2

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