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  • #16
    Originally posted by kamikaze7
    Grassroots coaches in Kenya spend a lot of time and money scouting and developing young runners only to see them defect.
    As much as I like the laissez faire approach - run where ya wanna run - it sets a very bad precedent for Kenya to EVER let him represent them again. One could wish for T&F to only care about giving the best their due, but politics is always in play.

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    • #17
      I forgot; has a U.S. athlete ever competed for Bahrain etc.?
      Or seriously considered an offer to do so, or even been approached to do so?
      You'd think it'd happen, with all the U.S. talent, the limited opportunities/compensation here, and the money there.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by trackjudge
        I forgot; has a U.S. athlete ever competed for Bahrain etc.?
        Not Bahrain, AFAIK, but here's an example of another exotic country purchasing a US athlete.
        Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Powell
          Originally posted by trackjudge
          I forgot; has a U.S. athlete ever competed for Bahrain etc.?
          Not Bahrain, AFAIK, but here's an example of another exotic country purchasing a US athlete.
          I remember seeing him compete once and didn't sound tremendously Sudanese!

          There's also former Jamaican 400m runner Brandon Simpson, who competed for Bahrain.
          http://twitter.com/Trackside2011

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          • #20
            There was a hurdler, Trecia Roberts, who competed for Thailand and set the Thai record of 12.83 at the Seville WC in 1999, oddly she is listed as having become Thai at the start of 1998 but her 12.73A from that year is not listed as the Thai record.

            http://www.tilastopaja.org/db/atw.php?I ... 000&Odd=33

            I believe she married a Thai man. She certainly competed in SE Asia at least semi-regularly.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by andyjgt
              There was a hurdler, Trecia Roberts, who competed for Thailand and set the Thai record of 12.83 at the Seville WC in 1999, oddly she is listed as having become Thai at the start of 1998 but her 12.73A from that year is not listed as the Thai record.

              http://www.tilastopaja.org/db/atw.php?I ... 000&Odd=33

              I believe she married a Thai man. She certainly competed in SE Asia at least semi-regularly.
              Here it says she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother and American father:
              http://www.sports-reference.com/olympic ... rts-1.html

              Hers seems more like a case of choosing a country for which it's easier to make the team, rather than being "bought" like those athletes running for Qatar and Bahrain.

              Wikipedia says she was still competing for the USA at the time of her 12.73 in 1998.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by kamikaze7
                Originally posted by gh
                and in the coming-back-to-bite-you-in-the-ass department, a European friend notes that the Kenyan Federation is lobbying like mad to have Kamel/Konchellah back instantly ready to represent them..... the same Kenyan Federation, of course, that blocked Bernard Lagat's chances to do the same for another country (and in an earlier era, Wilson Kipketer).
                As I see it, the Kenyan federation was spot on. Grassroots coaches in Kenya spend a lot of time and money scouting and developing young runners only to see them defect. Basically other federations and reaping what they did not sow. No wonder AK does not want to let them go easy.
                My sense is that the Kenyan federation just wants another potential cash cow. Are they interested in anything other than $?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sprintblox
                  Here it says she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother and American father:
                  http://www.sports-reference.com/olympic ... rts-1.html

                  Hers seems more like a case of choosing a country for which it's easier to make the team, rather than being "bought" like those athletes running for Qatar and Bahrain.
                  Yes, it's a case similar to Felix Sanchez or Ato Boldon. I know Inger Miller was also considering competing for Jamaica early on in her career.
                  Było smaszno, a jaszmije smukwijne...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Powell
                    Yes, it's a case similar to Felix Sanchez or Ato Boldon. I know Inger Miller was also considering competing for Jamaica early on in her career.
                    Similar to Sanchez and Miller, yes. But Ato Boldon was born in Trinidad and didn't move to the US until he was 14, and he probably would have been at least 20 when he became a US citizen* (by which time he had already competed for Trinidad internationally), so his situation isn't comparable to theirs.


                    *the normal waiting periods for transitioning from green card to citizenship would have resulted in him being 19-20 at minimum. However, there are some saying that he never even became a US citizen.

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                    • #25
                      Bahrain just nabbed sprinter Brian Dzingai from Zimbabwe (story on front page).

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                      • #26
                        Given Zimbabwe's situation, you can't blame anybody from there for looking for another country.

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                        • #27
                          Dzingai and others have the kind of talent thats world class but wont flourish if they stay put. See Jaysuma Ndure and Francis Obikwelu. For the latter, his career would have been over in 2000 had he not defected to Portugal. He had a serious injury and the Naija Athletics Federation was unwilling to pay for his treatment. So whereas I dislike what Bahrain is doing, sometimes an athlete has no choice.

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                          • #28
                            Apparently the Bahraini federation is denying that there has been any such switch.

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                            • #29
                              Headline in the Nairobi Daily Nation today, re expat Kenyans:

                              <<Defectors, traitors bite the dust>>

                              Full story on front page

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                              • #30
                                As I noted in the Herculis thread, Yusuf Kamel is listed as representing Qatar in the start lists. Has he now moved on to Qatar?

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