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  • #31
    Re: If Allen JOHNSON...

    Hmmmmm........perhaps there is some confusion here (either on my part, or otherwise), but the splits i gave for AJ were for his Olympic Final (12.95) gold medal. Incidentally, his trials final was 12.92, not 12.93.

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    • #32
      Re: If Allen JOHNSON...

      Or......maybe you were just referring to the correct splits and were indeed talking about a separate race.


      Also, i'm curious, what are your thoughts on the Olympic 12.95 run? Do you agree with my conclusions about the ~12.81, or do you see things differently. I'd love to hear your opinion.

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      • #33
        Re: If Allen JOHNSON...

        >Or......maybe you were just referring to the correct splits and were indeed
        >talking about a separate race.


        Also, i'm curious, what are your thoughts
        >on the Olympic 12.95 run? Do you agree with my conclusions about the ~12.81,
        >or do you see things differently. I'd love to hear your opinion.

        i made an error: i was referring to his trials of 12.92 (not 12.93 - all those 12.92's & 12.93's get confusing !) - that one i make 12.83 - 12.85 at best

        i'm not sure about the 12.95 final,because splits are at top of hurdle,whereas PJ's one's are at touch-down - we'll have to look at them & see what comes out (shouldn't be hard - i'll try & see what i get,when i've got some time) - but his trials already show he was capable of 12.83 - 12.85,so a quicker time is obviously possible for him

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        • #34
          Re: If Allen JOHNSON...

          >And here are AJ's
          >Atlanta splits as per T&FN (and i have included Mark
          >Crear's in parentheses, to
          >show exactly how much ground AJ probably lost
          >coming off the last
          >hurdle):


          It should be noted that these splits were
          >taken with an eye-beam
          >that registered when they crossed the top of the
          >hurdle. They are not touch
          >down times.


          H1: 2.34 (2.35)
          H2: 3.38
          >(3.38)
          H3: 4.39 (4.37)
          H4: 5.36
          >(5.39)
          H5: 6.32 (6.39)
          H6: 7.30
          >(7.41)
          H7: 8.30 (8.46)
          H8: 9.33 (9.47)
          H9:
          >10.36 (10.51)
          H10: 11.28
          >(11.56)
          110m: 12.95 (13.09)


          looking at those splits,there is quite clearly a typo of the 10th hurdle time (11.28s). if you subtract the 9th hurdle time of 10.36s,you get 0.92s which is impossible - i don't believe a split between hurdles has ever been recorded faster than 0.97s.
          using an idealised model,his splits from 5th hurdle onwards could have been ideally ~

          6.32, 7.32, 8.33, 9.33, 10.34, 11.35s

          his time at top of 10th hurdle would at quickest have been 11.35 ( it's only a model i use & nowhere near foolproof,but i think it is OK to within 0.01 - 0.02s either side).

          trouble is trying to work out the run-in from last hurdle to tape - that needs more work.
          however for a guesstimate you assume he had same run-in time as Crear (i assume he didn't hit last hurdle !) of 13.09 - 11.56 = 1.53s,
          you get 11.35 + 1.53 =

          12.88s

          (this of course depends on what you want to use for his run-in: if you believe he was always quicker than Crear off the last hurdle,than maybe 12.85 is more likely,but 12.81 sounds a bit too quick)

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          • #35
            Re: If Allen JOHNSON...

            Allen is the best hurdler of all times and I hope that he takes the gold medal in both, world indoors and olympics, to get the respect that he deserves.
            I think that after 2 world indoor golds, 5 world outdoors and a olympic games he should be more popular because there are few people in the states with better record than that

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