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  • #16
    Thanks for the stats guys!

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    • #17
      also this time makes him the 16th fastest junior in history over the mile, the 15 juniors ahead of him were all outdoors.

      jim ryun 3:51:3 mile as a junior looks tough, but fernandez could get ryun's 3:36.1 aj for 1500, and ryun's 7:47 for 3k converted from 8:25 mile as well as lindgrens aj records of 13:32 and 28:09 converted records.

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      • #18
        This is really fantastic. I had no idea he would be capable of this at such an early date. I really doubted he would ever have the ability (enough speed) to be a solid miler.

        This kid is developing so quickly that we really don't know what kind of ability he has. After last year we knew he was extremely strong...but now he is showing some true long speed to go along with the strength.

        When comparing to other prodigies - Lindgren, Pre, Rupp, Ritz, Hall, Webb, Ryun, where does he fit? Obviously as strong as any. Now faster than all but two and improving very quickly.

        This kid's potential at 5k is really tremendous. Barring injury, I do think many of those AJRs that Doug mentioned will soon be his. I just hope they don't overdo the racing.

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        • #19
          Sorry about the indoor/outdoor list mixup. I got sloppy.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DrJay
            Originally posted by dj
            Originally posted by dukehjsteve
            Originally posted by ed gee
            The University of Oregon is not known as OU.
            Which reminds me:

            Why is University of Colorado shortened to CU ?
            Or University of Kansas to KU?
            'Cause the Baron got the copyright for "UK". :wink:
            Since it was his alma mater, something tells me that Rupp was calling Kansas KU before he knew where Lexington was.

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            • #21
              I knew he was good but a fun 3:56 mile indoors as a freshmen coming off an injury?! Skys the limit. He is smooth and fast!
              phsstt!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SQUACKEE
                I knew he was good but a fun 3:56 mile indoors as a freshmen coming off an injury?! Skys the limit. He is smooth and fast!
                Maybe if we DON'T tout him as the the Second Coming of Alan Webb, he'll have a chance!

                He and Wheating make for a high upside USA future.

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                • #23
                  Splits...

                  FAT Splits from the finishline, so the first split is 209.??m 200m plus the added distance to make it a mile...

                  Fernandez Splits
                  31.54 (209m)
                  29.08
                  30.29
                  30.10
                  30.12
                  29.22
                  28.47
                  27.72

                  Ulrey Splits
                  30.73 (209m)
                  29.18
                  30.26
                  30.31
                  30.18
                  29.42
                  28.75
                  28.80

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                  • #24
                    One can extrapolate Fernandez thusly for yards:

                    59.55, 60.74 [2:00.29] 59.69 [2:59.98], 56.52

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                    • #25
                      The only time I have seen GF is the CA HS State Meet last year (on TV). He ran both the mile and two mile essentially on his own and was a metronome of pacing, with the first three of the mile and the first seven of the two within a second of each other, much like this race here. (Those two CA state meet races being the fastest one-day 4/8 lap double by a US high schooler ever). Very fluid and economical looking running style too.

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                      • #26
                        In looking at these results, keep in mind that this was probably not very much aided by pacers. Also, while a very good indoor facility it is a 200m track and 28.47 and 27.72 are pretty good closing marks when you have pulled clear of the competition. I am impressed.

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                        • #27
                          I tracked down the splits of that CA HS State Meet double:

                          60.00
                          60.49
                          59.61
                          61.19
                          4:00.29 (for that bastard 1600)

                          64.31
                          65.14
                          64.82
                          64.58
                          64.29
                          64.50
                          65.06
                          61.59
                          8:34.23 (ditto bastard 3200)

                          Still haven't deleted that broadcast from my TiVo . . .

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                          • #28
                            So virtually all the difference between his HS 1600 and the new mile comes in the last "lap" (2 indoors).

                            Pity that Arkansas didn't have a 3200 as well :-)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by gh
                              Pity that Arkansas didn't have a 3200 as well :-)
                              GF would have killed . . .

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Marlow
                                Maybe if we DON'T tout him as the the Second Coming of Alan Webb, he'll have a chance!
                                Exactly! This kid is the real deal. Let's hope he continues to develop at a nice, steady pace....

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