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  • #16
    Originally posted by guruof track
    Even if Capel had stuck around, I doubt they would have broken that record. Florida has never had the discpline to break that record, similiar to the 4x4. They obviously had the talent, but the discipline of uniform and clean handoffs isnt somthing that talent can just over come.
    "Clean handoffs" in a 4x4?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by guruof track
      Even if Capel had stuck around, I doubt they would have broken that record. Florida has never had the discpline to break that record, similiar to the 4x4. They obviously had the talent, but the discipline of uniform and clean handoffs isnt somthing that talent can just over come.
      Bernard Williams
      Bo Carroll
      Aaron Armstrong
      Geno White

      This crew won NC's with a 38.3 time...going into the last leg, they were behind TCU by two to three meters...and Kim Collins was anchoring. Now if Capel was on the Florida that year (he was but turned pro after the indoor season) both teams break 38. I was at the meet at Duke.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by guruof track
        Can you imagine LSU relay

        Trinidon Holiday
        Xavier Carter
        Gab Mvumvure
        Richard Thompson :shock:

        That would be 37.8x territory.

        Florida should run very well, I doubt they approach the record simply due to lack of discpline on the relay. As talented as they are (and they probably will win), I just dont see them being as dicplined on handoffs as an LSU or TCU team.

        Florida State will be right ther with Florida though.
        That team does break 38....this team does.

        Holiday, Carter, Thompson, and Willie. Remember, Holiday got hurt his freshman year and didn't run outdoors in 2006.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by guruof track
          Can you imagine LSU relay

          Trinidon Holiday
          Xavier Carter
          Gab Mvumvure
          Richard Thompson :shock:

          That would be 37.8x territory.

          Florida should run very well, I doubt they approach the record simply due to lack of discpline on the relay. As talented as they are (and they probably will win), I just dont see them being as dicplined on handoffs as an LSU or TCU team.

          Florida State will be right ther with Florida though.
          When SJS had Sam Davis..Kirk Clayton..Ronnie Ray Smith and John Carlos they had a team superior to USC WR team but never ran what they should have. Same with UTEP when Steve Williams was there. They also had Howard Williams, Harrington Jackson and Errol Stewart all in that sub 9.5 world as was that SJS gang. Garpenborg might even have been there then?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Texas
            Originally posted by guruof track
            Even if Capel had stuck around, I doubt they would have broken that record. Florida has never had the discpline to break that record, similiar to the 4x4. They obviously had the talent, but the discipline of uniform and clean handoffs isnt somthing that talent can just over come.
            "Clean handoffs" in a 4x4?
            I'll try not to be to 'brutal' in my response. The clean handoff was obviously in reference to their 4x1 handoffs. The reference to the 4x4 was simply to illustrate that they have previously had talent to break records (they do have the indoor record), but lack of discpline prevented them from running sub 3

            I wa

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            • #21
              [quote=guruof track]
              Originally posted by Texas
              Originally posted by "guruof track":2w5dt27a
              Even if Capel had stuck around, I doubt they would have broken that record. Florida has never had the discpline to break that record, similiar to the 4x4. They obviously had the talent, but the discipline of uniform and clean handoffs isnt somthing that talent can just over come.
              "Clean handoffs" in a 4x4?
              I'll try not to be to 'brutal' in my response. The clean handoff was obviously in reference to their 4x1 handoffs. The reference to the 4x4 was simply to illustrate that they have previously had talent to break records (they do have the indoor record), but lack of discpline prevented them from running sub 3[/quote:2w5dt27a]
              I think you can now throw in Texas A&M with LSU and TCU on the short list of schools who have mastered the 4x100 baton pass. And add Tennessee to the list of schools that have underperformed based on their talent. Not only are the Volunteers not on the top 10 performance list, which LSU and TCU dominate, they're not even on the top 10 performer list. :shock: It still boggles my mind that a team with Leonard Scott and Justin Gatlin couldn't handle an LSU team that didn't have a single person on it that was capable of sub-10.3. :?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Texas
                Originally posted by guruof track
                Same with UTEP when Steve Williams was there. They also had Howard Williams, Harrington Jackson and Errol Stewart all in that sub 9.5 world as was that SJS gang. Garpenborg might even have been there then?
                I think Garpenborg showed up in '73 which was when all of the others had moved on.

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                • #23
                  [quote=guruof track]
                  Originally posted by Texas
                  Originally posted by "guruof track":20c10eqt
                  Even if Capel had stuck around, I doubt they would have broken that record. Florida has never had the discpline to break that record, similiar to the 4x4. They obviously had the talent, but the discipline of uniform and clean handoffs isnt somthing that talent can just over come.
                  "Clean handoffs" in a 4x4?
                  I'll try not to be to 'brutal' in my response. The clean handoff was obviously in reference to their 4x1 handoffs. The reference to the 4x4 was simply to illustrate that they have previously had talent to break records (they do have the indoor record), but lack of discpline prevented them from running sub 3

                  I wa[/quote:20c10eqt]

                  Obviously that was my feeble attempt at being funny.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Dutra
                    Originally posted by Texas
                    Originally posted by guruof track
                    Same with UTEP when Steve Williams was there. They also had Howard Williams, Harrington Jackson and Errol Stewart all in that sub 9.5 world as was that SJS gang. Garpenborg might even have been there then?
                    I think Garpenborg showed up in '73 which was when all of the others had moved on.
                    People forget he was a USA National champion. Still not cool with non -US citizens in USA Championship meets.

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