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  • #46
    Originally posted by Powell
    Originally posted by Conor Dary
    I agree that there is no anti-walk group here. I think most people here are like me: Just ignore it.
    Really? So how did words 'disdain' and 'ridiculous' enter your posts below that one? :?
    It is similar to the difference in uninterested and disinterested.

    Whether the walks come or go really doesn't matter to me. If their presence keeps some people happy, fine.

    But the walks are a ridiculous artificial event.

    Going from A to B as fast as you can while keeping one leg straight, seems pretty silly, not to mention keeping one foot on the ground, which no one does anymore.

    Why not races where you have to keep your arms straight out at your sides?

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    • #47
      Oh dear god, this is the type of childish ignorance usually relegated to Letsrun or Dyestat. All events are arbitrary in their rules. Why would someone ever TJ under the rules either?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by MJR
        Oh dear god, this is the type of childish ignorance usually relegated to Letsrun or Dyestat. All events are arbitrary in their rules. Why would someone ever TJ under the rules either?
        Everything by that definition is "arbitrary." Why does "dog" refer to a furry animal with 4 legs rather than one with a feathers and wings? It's purely arbitrary, or to be more precise, a matter of definition and convention. All events have defined parameters--otherwise, they wouldn't be "events" at all! It's just that the very definition of walking seems--to many, both children and adults alike--to be inane. You're free to snicker and chortle by the side of the triple jump runway, but you'll probably not have much company.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by MJR
          Oh dear god, this is the type of childish ignorance usually relegated to Letsrun or Dyestat. All events are arbitrary in their rules. Why would someone ever TJ under the rules either?
          Why on earth do you even care what we non-believers think??!! How does that decrease YOUR joy in the event? As I said above, you are free to think whatever you wish about the wHT. I'll even understand your lack of interest. You can even make fun of it. You may ridicule, scorn and show disdain. Won't bother me a whit.

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          • #50
            I don't care if others want to race walk or if the rules are kinda restrictive. I tried it and it is un-necessarily exhausting. I found I could jog faster with less effort.

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            • #51
              Its not a question of non-believers. It is a question of dealing with those who insult and ridicule. They have a very tangible effect on the ability to attract the interest of future athletes into the event and therefore are a direct reason for the lack of progress in developing top perfomers. Indifference is fine, but ignorance and fear are unacceptable diseases when the ignorant and fearful are allowed to spread their filth unchecked upon the masses.

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              • #52
                One More Am Jr Record

                Trevor Barron walked 5000m in 20:54 this morning the Mt Sac Relays, while on his way to 10000m. This betters the 20:57.16 by Ben Shorey from 2002. He should completely rewrite the US record books before he turns 20.

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                • #53
                  some background please - age, 5k american record, 5k wr, 10k american record, 10k wr, significance of 20'57, american record, wr, etc

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                  • #54
                    US Jr 5000m record. He's 16, turning 17 this year.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MJR
                      We definitely need more athletes doing this. BUT:
                      . . . .
                      2. The NCAA absolutely forbids $ to be spent on it (= an NCAA violation).
                      The NCAA is considering adding four Olympic sports to their program . . . but there's no mention of the possibility of adding one event to an existing sport. Very unfortunate

                      http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/04/09 ... rts-events

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                      • #56
                        err.... read a little closer.... apparently the Philippines has an NCAA as well!

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                        • #57
                          ops: ops: ops: ops:

                          It's the pre-coffee posting thing again. If I had read it closely with my brain awake, I might also have known that something was wrong because the US NCAA has had fencing for many years.

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                          • #58
                            Re: News & Notes, Volume 9, Number 6

                            Originally posted by eldrick
                            Originally posted by MJR
                            The only U.S. qualifier for both events is Philip Dunn, who won the U.S. 50 km title in 4 hours 28 minutes 53 seconds. Theron Kissinger was the runner-up in 5:04:33, with Steven McCullough finishing third in 7:00:21
                            shit !

                            a 2"30 marathoner ( a woman ! ) coud walk 50k faster than that !!!
                            Be careful, mate...Some people on this board are so easy to upset that they'll scalp you at a moment's notice after that statement...

                            ...But you are dead-on with that assessment. Alina Ivanova was a racewalker before she became a marathoner. She walked 42:57 for 10K in 1991, and ran 32:53 in 2007. She's run 1:09:30 for the half-marathon in 2007 and 2:25:34 for the full distance in 2001. As of late, she ran 2:29:20 in 2007.

                            She's 40 now, probably still capable of running 2:30. I wouldn't be surprised if she still has a 1:30 walk in her for 20K. What's the women's masters' WR for 20K?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by eldrick
                              if americans ever get a 1"18 or 3"40 guy, i guarantee the vast majority of the populace here woud stay up & watch them at an OG
                              We came close. Curt Clausen once walked 3:48 back in 1999. I think he ranked 3rd that year.

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                              • #60
                                Re: News & Notes, Volume 9, Number 6

                                Originally posted by CookyMonzta
                                What's the women's masters' WR for 20K?
                                Never mind. I found it.

                                1:30:22 Larisa Yemelyanenko RUS 25.07.64 6 Adler 17.02.2007

                                You think maybe if Alina Ivanova wanted to walk again, she could break this record?

                                By the way, here's the women's masters AR and masters' track WR:

                                1:33:25.15 Teresa Vaill USA 20.11.62 1 Carson 25.06.2005

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