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  • bf
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    I have the synchro record as 2.18 by Jan & Tomas Janku (Cz). What's the official record? (Seems like a difficult record, with 2 jumpers passing over the bar simultaneously. A great spectator event, if presented right!)

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  • tafnut21
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    >Anybody else remember a few year's back when the Germans used to do synchro high jump?

    The Germans also have that other great event, the "High Jump With Music", most recently held last Saturday (7 Feb 04) in Arnstadt. http://www.hochsprung-mit-musik.de/index2.htm

    I've never seen or read much about it, but I've got this image of the graceful high jumpers competing with blasting classical music.(Although perhaps hip-hop would be more appropriate!)

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  • kuha
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    Re: handicaps... Historically, of course, handicap racing has been integral to the sport. In fact, a high percentage of races in US meets of the 1870s-90s were handicaps. In theory, the handicaps were set so that the entire field would finish together. In practice, of course, the best guy usually came out on top, but it was rarely certain until very close to the end. Thus, every race was more or less "paced"...that is, the best guy had lots of other people to catch and pass. As a side note, handicaps were perfect for BETTING--something that, for better or worse, has long been driven from the sport. It's remarkable how much general interest is generated (or was generated) by the whole activity of wagering.

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  • Conor Dary
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    'Honestly, there are some pretty interesting ideas in this thread--I think they would be fun to watch. Maybe they wouldn't be used all the time, but have like a meet or two a year with that format.'

    Exactly. A bit of a circus atmosphere occasionally wouldn't hurt track at all. For example, at the Boston meet instead of Geb running by himself with the rabbits think how much more interesting it would have been with a handicap race and Geb trying to catch everyone. Sure it may not be official but it would be a lot more fun to watch.

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  • Conor Dary
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    GH: I do remember that synchro high jumping. It was interesting with the jumpers coming at the bar from both sides.

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  • gh
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    Dwight's take:

    <<The two teams of knuckleheads were usually Thranhardt and Gerd Nagel (both from the WRONG side) and Mogenburg and Paul Fromeyer. I think the record is 2.25m.

    I saw them do it over 2.21m somewhere in Belgium. Pretty cool looking actually but extremely dangerous as you might imagine.>>

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  • gh
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    Anybody else remember a few year's back when the Germans used to do synchro high jump? As I recall, you had two people who had to clear the SAME bar at once, not different ones, and Mögenburg and Thránhardt did 2.24 or 2.25. Maybe Big D will remember for sure.

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  • The Flash
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    Ya know what I think would be fun to watch? Those same 12 bohemoths lined up across from 12 other bohemoths letting them all fly at once...

    Honestly, there are some pretty interesting ideas in this thread--I think they would be fun to watch. Maybe they wouldn't be used all the time, but have like a meet or two a year with that format.

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  • 5k Guy
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    How about a 400m race with men and women alternating lanes, men running over hurdles, women - no hurdles.

    Similar event over 3000m steeple (men) vs. flat 300m women.

    You'd have to match up the time caliber of the competitors but it would be entertaining.

    How about a jumpatholon(?). Each competitor gets 3 long jumps and 3 triple jumps, the winner has the longest distance of their best LJ and TJ combined.

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  • palladium
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    >we want some excitement today don't we...

    simultaneous hammer
    >throws..

    watch them judges run!!

    a little blood wouldn't hurt
    >much...

    imagine the tv ratings!!

    that's the right idea! i think we should have simultaneous pole vaults as well. You'd start the run-up to the mat a full 100 meters back. There'd be a starting gun and everything. There would be something like 3 or 4 pole vaulters running at top speeds from 100 out, and the first to actually plant the vault (and get over the bar) would win. body checking would be permitted; and in the event a competitor falls behind in the run-up to the mat, he/she can jab the other competitors from behind with the pole.

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  • Conor Dary
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    'simultaneous hammer throws..'

    I think that is a little over the top. Sort of like a reality version of dodge-ball.

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  • Conor Dary
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    Another idea from the past is handicap races. These use to be very popular, especially when one runner is so much superior to the others in the field. Wooderson once ran a WR mile in a handicap race in 1937.

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  • az2
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    we want some excitement today don't we...

    simultaneous hammer throws..

    watch them judges run!!

    a little blood wouldn't hurt much...

    imagine the tv ratings!!

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  • steve
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    The simultaneous pole vault where part of the competition is the race to be the first plant the pole in the box...........you heard it here first.
    Seriously though, I've always thought a one turn 400m stagger would be great. It would take some of the excitement that the 2nd and anchor legs of the 4X4 can have and would be a sprint race that required some pack strategy.

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  • palladium
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    >Since no one, except perhaps kuha, took my suggestion, inspired by marknhj's
    >observations, for the 'simultaneous shot put' seriously, I thought I would post
    >it again.

    I think it would be pretty fascinating: 12 behemoths lined up in
    >a row and tossing their multi-colored orbs all at once. You would know
    >instantly who is in the lead after each round.

    Another suggestion: Why not
    >have the 400 meters run with only a one turn stagger? After the first turn,
    >break for the pole, just like the 800. You know right away who is in the lead,
    >unlike the case now, where it isn't obvious who is in the lead until the final
    >straight and by the then the race is usually over.

    While we're at it, why don't we have a sharkpit around the high jump and pole vault mats. That would definitely bring more spectators to the sport.

    But seriously, what are peoples' thoughts on a separated 5000 or 10000. All this talk about bringing the athletes closer together in the 400 (one-turn stagger), I think it would be cool to run separate 5000's on a 16 lane track. You'd give something like a 3 lap stagger to the athletes running in the outside 8 lanes, and set it up so that the two races (preferably 10 to 12 runners per race) met up with 400 to go. That would bring a totally new dimension to strategy. Instead of calling out split times every lap, the coach/official could call out split differential times between the two simultaneous races.

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