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  • Gleason
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    Sarah Bowman on cover this Month?

    To BillVol or anyone else who can answer these questions about Sarah Bowman:

    What happened to her at NCAA Mideast Regional in the 1500 final? She ran 4:13.59 in her heat to win by almost 10 seconds, but was second in the final at 4:22.68.

    Did she run a fast heat to guarantee a place at NCAA in case of a fall? If she had failed to place in the top five, an at-large NCAA place which is based on times was needed because her fast indoor and relay times don't count.

    Or did she try to win with a kick? She said in an interview that she was pushed around at OT and she will be agressive at USAT&F.

    Her 4:13.59 in her regional heat is faster than anyone ran in 2008 NCAA heats. IF she was experimenting with her kick the answer is obvious--don't do it. In her NCAA heat a 68 pace would produce 4:15--faster than anyone ran in 2008. In her NCAA final a 66 pace would produce a 4:07.5--her exact time in 2008.

    I suggest that she should plan to set those paces unless someone has information that I lack.

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  • Gleason
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by Gleason
    Why is Bowman entered in the SEC 800? Her teammates and the LSU 800 runners will be fresh while she will have about one hour rest after her 1500. IF points are needed to clinch the meet, she could double in the 5000 and win it or place second to Areson. She could be 5th (three points) in the 800 unless the LSU 800 runners are injured.
    I'm afraid that I was right about her 5th, but I'm impressed by her 2:03.64 after her 4:15.03 and heats in each. Regional 5000 is after 1500 heat, so I hope that she tries it. She made the qualification by about 30 sec. Kipyego defeated Bowman in 2008 NCAA 1500 after winning the 5000.

    Lauren Centrowitz (Stanford) came back after a poor 1500 to defeat the predicted 2nd & 3rd placers at NCAA in PAC-10, so because 5000 is weak, I hope that both milers double--especially if 1500 & 5000 pace at regionals is as slow as it was at PAC-10.

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  • Gleason
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    Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by tandfman
    I don't think I've ever seen Bowman up close, or perhaps I just haven't looked closely, but I was surprised by the grim, determined look on her face, both in the cover photo and in the one on page 8. In my mind's eye she is smiling. I guess she doesn't do that when she has a baton in her hand.
    I noticed a photo of Bowman and Nicole Blood on page 31 of the November 2004 T&FN while searching for something else.

    Bowman was a junior and was first at 800 and fourth at the mile while Blood was a sophomore and was first at the mile and second at two miles.

    Bowman had that "grim, determined look" mentioned above without the baton in her hand.

    When Robin Ruble was a 4:08 miler at Stanford in the early 1960s, he told me that his coach, the late Payton Jordan, said "you're naked when you race." I saw a photo of the Tennessee at Texas A&M dual meet where coach J.J. Clark was smiling, but Bowman had her "game face" on then.

    She is very "focused" to use the current word.

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  • Gleason
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    Bowman had the fastest 800 time on friday and the fastest 1500 time on saturday, so she may triple because Tennessee is 35 points behind after the first two days.

    Oregon is so far ahead that I don't expect Rupp to run the 5000.

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  • tandfman
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    SEC did a press release on her making the cover.

    http://www.secsports.com/index.php?s=&u ... _well_id=2

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  • Gleason
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    Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Sarah Bowman has made the 800 final. 1500 heats are on saturday. If she makes 1500 final she could run 1500 final/1:15 break/ 800 final1:15 break/5000final (If necessary)

    This is a tough task in the heat and rain, but if anyone could win all three races, Ms. Bowman could IMHO

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  • Gleason
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    [quote="26mi235"
    Maybe it gives her preparation for facing multiple events in the NCAAs and rather than take the extensive effort of the 5000 (in the heat?), they are doing spe an 800.[/quote]ed in

    How can she do "multiple events in the NCAAs?" Break between 800 & 1500 is 50 minutes for finals and less between 800 semi & 1500 heat. She is already picked for second in 1500 final.

    She has shown no cross-country endurance to do 5000 heat/1500 heat/5000 final/1500 final. NCAA will also be in hot weather. SEC 5000 is in the evening, NCAA 800 & 1500 are in the afternoon, so "in the heat" should not be relevant.

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  • 26mi235
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by Gleason
    Thanks to "BillVol" for answering my previous questions.

    Why is Bowman entered in the SEC 800? Her teammates and the LSU 800 runners will be fresh while she will have about one hour rest after her 1500.

    IF points are needed to clinch the meet, she could double in the 5000 and win it or place second to Areson. She could be 5th (three points) in the 800 unless the LSU 800 runners are injured.
    Maybe it gives her preparation for facing multiple events in the NCAAs and rather than take the extensive effort of the 5000 (in the heat?), they are doing speed in an 800.

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  • Gleason
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    Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Thanks to "BillVol" for answering my previous questions.

    Why is Bowman entered in the SEC 800? Her teammates and the LSU 800 runners will be fresh while she will have about one hour rest after her 1500.

    IF points are needed to clinch the meet, she could double in the 5000 and win it or place second to Areson. She could be 5th (three points) in the 800 unless the LSU 800 runners are injured.

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  • BillVol
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by bad hammy
    Originally posted by doug091463
    Originally posted by BillVol
    Why not? Who else are you going to put on the cover? Hooker is good, but in this economy, let's keep it American! JMO.
    apparently they took your advice as bowman is on the cover of the new issue.
    Well Hell, if that is all it takes I know a 4:24 mile guy from the 70's that I'd like to see on the cover . . .
    Was that guy a part of any WRs and owner of an NCAA championship meet record? Member of national champ team?

    Let's just put you on the cover, hammy. Hah!

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  • tandfman
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    I don't think I've ever seen Bowman up close, or perhaps I just haven't looked closely, but I was surprised by the grim, determined look on her face, both in the cover photo and in the one on page 8. In my mind's eye she is smiling. I guess she doesn't do that when she has a baton in her hand.

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  • Brian
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by BillVol
    Originally posted by doug091463
    [apparently they took your advice as bowman is on the cover of the new issue.
    YES!!! Thanks for the heads up!

    Thank you. A very deserving athlete this season.

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  • BillVol
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by doug091463
    Originally posted by BillVol
    Why not? Who else are you going to put on the cover? Hooker is good, but in this economy, let's keep it American! JMO.
    apparently they took your advice as bowman is on the cover of the new issue.
    YES!!! Thanks for the heads up!

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  • Marlow
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    I love the pic on page 26 - a very Vishnu kinda thng!

    I also liked gh's rant on USA team uniforms - totally agree.
    Note to Dougie - please, please, pleeeeeeeez go back to the '64/'68 drawing board and update that look with some new styling, but keep the giant white USA emblazoned upon a bright blue singlet!

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  • bad hammy
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    Re: Sarah Bowman on cover this month?

    Originally posted by doug091463
    Originally posted by BillVol
    Why not? Who else are you going to put on the cover? Hooker is good, but in this economy, let's keep it American! JMO.
    apparently they took your advice as bowman is on the cover of the new issue.
    Well Hell, if that is all it takes I know a 4:24 mile guy from the 70's that I'd like to see on the cover . . .

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