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  • #16
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    Originally posted by Brettboy
    Inessa Kravets
    HJ - 1.75
    LJ - 7.37
    TJ - 15.50

    Heike Drechsler
    HJ - 1.88i
    LJ - 7.48 (7.63w)
    TJ - 13.94i

    Biryukova, Lasovskaya, Chen & Mushailova from the old school all have great LJ & TJ PB's.
    Diane Guthrie (George Mason & Jamaica) HJ - 1.90, LJ - 6.78 4/11/92

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    • #17
      Re: Best women's combination jumpers

      1.95, 6.97, 14.29. A certain Swedish athlete.

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      • #18
        Re: Best women's combination jumpers

        Originally posted by highjumpfan
        1.95, 6.97, 14.29. A certain Swedish athlete.
        did JJK ever TJ ?
        i deserve extra credit

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        • #19
          Re: Best women's combination jumpers

          I thought of that as well and near as I can tell, she did not. I do recall Gail Devers did though in college, but that's a different thread all together.

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          • #20
            Re: Best women's combination jumpers

            Originally posted by mump boy
            Originally posted by highjumpfan
            1.95, 6.97, 14.29. A certain Swedish athlete.
            did JJK ever TJ ?
            Don't have time to look up her PR, but she was 2nd in the NCAA as a senior at 43?2¼
            (13.16).

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            • #21
              Re: Best women's combination jumpers

              Originally posted by highjumpfan
              I thought of that as well and near as I can tell, she did not. I do recall Gail Devers did though in college, but that's a different thread all together.
              Gail was the 1988 NCAA Outdoor runner-up in the long jump (I believe she had a PR close to 22 feet) and I believe she was a 42-foot jumper in the triple during her UCLA days.

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              • #22
                Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                When I saw the Pac-10 meet at Oregon State (the last meet there until?) it seems that Gail scored 700 points, although it might have only be 60 . My most indelible image was of her taking the handoff in the 4x100 (on the backstretch [#2 leg], I think) and just being on a different speed planet than the rest of the relatively good Pac-10 sprinters. Because all of those outside UCLA still had 3m/lane stagger advanced placement visually, she got to run past 3 or 4 runners almost in a blur. About what Bolt looked like in the school meet from about age 16-17 that was posted a couple weeks ago. [Did she 100h, 100, 200?, 4x100, 4x400?, LJ and second in the TJ?)

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                • #23
                  Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                  Going back to the one-day LJ/HJ double, I'm surprised Rhonda Watkins has not yet been mentioned. Probably her best one-day double was when she set her LJ PB of 6.82m; she high jumped 1.81m that same day. Still not as good as Howard-Lowe, though.

                  The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced that Chaunte Howard-Lowe's 6.61m/2.00m is the best one-day LJ/HJ double in history.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                    Originally posted by Jon
                    Going back to the one-day LJ/HJ double, I'm surprised Rhonda Watkins has not yet been mentioned. Probably her best one-day double was when she set her LJ PB of 6.82m; she high jumped 1.81m that same day. Still not as good as Howard-Lowe, though.

                    The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced that Chaunte Howard-Lowe's 6.61m/2.00m is the best one-day LJ/HJ double in history.
                    This is at least partially the result of the Heptathlon schedule; if both the LJ and HJ were on the same day (e.g., switching the 100h and the LJ), there were be more good doubles, such as the aforementioned Swedish and American record holders.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                      Originally posted by 26mi235
                      Originally posted by Jon
                      The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced that Chaunte Howard-Lowe's 6.61m/2.00m is the best one-day LJ/HJ double in history.
                      This is at least partially the result of the Heptathlon schedule; if both the LJ and HJ were on the same day (e.g., switching the 100h and the LJ), there were be more good doubles.
                      Which is pretty much what I said above.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                        The heptathlon talk is intersting but perhaps a little overstated.

                        Looking at pela's all time list for HJ, i can't see a mark with "H" anywhere, which would indicate the highest possible mark is 1.97m...

                        Best all-time LJ marks (1 per athlete) in hep:
                        7.27 +0.7 Jackie Joyner-Kersee Seoul 24.09.1988 (HJed 1.86 on 1st day)
                        6.97 +1.7 Carolina Klüft Tallinn 04.07.2004 (HJed 1.86 on 1st day)
                        6.95 +1.0 Heike Drechsler Talence 11.09.1994 (HJed 1.84 on 1st day)
                        6.93 +0.3 Svetlana Moskalets Götzis 28.05.1995
                        6.90 +1.8 Sabine John Magdeburg 23.05.1982

                        Of very high HJs in top Hep marks, the LJs were:

                        Kluft 1.95, 6.85 (Osaka 07)
                        JJK 1.93, 7.00 (Indy 88)
                        Braun 1.93, 6.63w (Gotzis 92)
                        Barber 1.93, 6.85 (Gotzis 00)

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                        • #27
                          Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                          Also of note is the ever improving Melanie Bauschke from Germany, who has a 1.90 HJ and a 6.83 LJ. She ran a mediocre 7.8 over 60m indoors this winter, so perhaps she has heptathlon potential too.

                          The world lists are misleading as more women probably LJ than HJ and when you get to the top end, the HJ is very much a specialised event, while you can get away with a decent LJ and minimum technique.

                          The heptathlon scoring is pretty fair for the jumps:
                          A 1.80 HJ gets you 978 points, compared to a 6.41 LJ.
                          A 1.86 HJ gets you 1054 points, compared to a 6.64 LJ.
                          A 1.90 HJ gets you 1106 points, compared to a 6.80 LJ (1105 pts)

                          If an athlete can jump 1.8 in the HJ, she can generally jump 6.4 in the LJ.

                          Historically heptathletes get better LJ results than HJ; the LJ is easier to master, and generally power based hepathletes are often more explosive in the LJ than HJ, but there is no hard and fast rule: while Denise Lewis, Natalya Dobrynska & especially Sabine John are/were probably better LJ'ers than HJ'ers, on the other hand Larissa Turchinskaya, Ghada Shouaa & Sabine Braun were more consistent in the HJ.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                            Originally posted by Gabriella
                            The world lists are misleading as more women probably LJ than HJ and when you get to the top end, the HJ is very much a specialised event, while you can get away with a decent LJ and minimum technique.
                            ???

                            So Donald Thomas had great technique but was not a very good jumper. The HJ might be the event that is most 'natural', at least for males, because the 'hops' (as gh calls it) is the most important thing and comes rather naturally and from doing similar things like BB.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                              Running and 'jumping high' is no more natural an action then running and 'jumping long', so I disagree that 'hops' come more natural. Maybe it does to boys who have played BB from an early age, but that is not 'natural', that is a learned and practised action. Besides, basketball is nowhere near as popular in Europe as it is in the States.

                              Marion Jones and Brittany Reese are two examples of elite women LJ medalists with awful form. Chris Tomlinson is a good example on the mens side. I can't think of any female HJ medalist of recent years who had really poor technique yet still medalled. To get to the top end of the HJ your form has to be excellent, otherwise you have to have an outstanding ability to spring. With the long jump you can get to top end distances with relatively poor form.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Best women's combination jumpers

                                Interesting, women LJs can win medals with poor form but not HJers, and for men it is the reverse (with DT winning Golds, but not many notable medals from poor-form LJers).

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