How fast will Willard and Barringer run in steeple in 2009?

[lovetorun]

Would be nice to see Barringer and Willard competitive on the world stage this summer and run in the 9:00 to 9:15 range. Willard would be better in tactical/kick races but Barringer's pace pushing could keep her in a fast race.

[EPelle]

Is Barringer's recent success the result of her AR steeple runs, or will this pull her even further up the totem poll? A 9.12-9.15 isn't out of the question.

[SQUACKEE]

Squackswami sez 9:10

[gh]

For what it's worth, Barringer (8:42.03) is now equal to WR holder Samitova (8:41.72) on the flat.

On the other hand, the Russian is 10 seconds faster in the 1500 and half a minute faster in the 5000, although Barringer in current form could be expected to easily lower both of those.

[eldrick]

samitova probably ran that 3k on 1 leg

her 5k pb is 14'33, which just proportioned to 3k is 8'43, compared to an actual 3k race pb of 8'42 outdoors

[lovetorun]

A 14:33 5000m is proportioned to an 8:43 3000m?

[eldrick]

...en-route

her likely 3k flat ability off 4'01 ( albeit in '04, but a 4'20 mile in '07 is likely even better ) & a 14'33 are -> ~ 8'26 potential

it's no wonder she is the proverbial mile ahead of everyone else with that possible flat speed

[joeltetreault]

If you compare Barringer's times to Volkova's (#2 steeplechaser), she has a similar spread (1500, Mile, 3000, 5000):

9:06.57 - Volkova - 4:09.03 - 4:29.60 - 8:45.09 - 15:00.02
9:22.26 - Barringer - 4:11.36 - 4:25.91i - 8:42.03i - 15:01.70i

It should be noted that most of Volkova's marks were run a few years before her steeple PR (before she changed over), so she probably can run faster now.

Also telling is how Barringer compares to the 14 other women ahead of her on the alltime list: she has the sixth fastest 1500m PR, third fastest 3000, and fourth fastest 5000. I have to second the posters above - sub9:15 seems very realistic for this year.

[Gleason]

Re: How fast will Willard and Barringer run in steeple in 20

Would be nice to see Barringer and Willard competitive on the world stage this summer and run in the 9:00 to 9:15 range. Willard would be better in tactical/kick races but Barringer's pace pushing could keep her in a fast race.

I think that Barringer & Willard are good enough to make WCh in Steeple & 1500. Supporting argument is on Barringer NCAA thread.

[eldrick]

If you compare Barringer's times to Volkova's (#2 steeplechaser), she has a similar spread (1500, Mile, 3000, 5000):

9:06.57 - Volkova - 4:09.03 - 4:29.60 - 8:45.09 - 15:00.02
9:22.26 - Barringer - 4:11.36 - 4:25.91i - 8:42.03i - 15:01.70i

not really worth bothering trying to analyse the gorgeous volkova's flat performances - her actual stats look moribund compared to a 9'06

jenny looks a little more interesting as she does have a very quick indoor mile at 4'25i ( i'd knock 2 - 3s off that for an outdoor equivalent ) & her 8'42i off a pedestrian 2k shouda been nearer 8'35i & you can knock 1/2 dozen secs off that for outdoors

so she's probably worth a 4'22 outdoors which gives her ~ 4'02 ability for 1500 off 1.08 conversion

she certainly coud make team for 1500 with that

[gh]

I see that Barringer is scheduled to make her outdoor debut in the 800 in Eugene this weekend. By how much will she chew up her 2:09 PR?

[BCBaroo]

I see that Barringer is scheduled to make her outdoor debut in the 800 in Eugene this weekend. By how much will she chew up her 2:09 PR?

She just looked like a machine at College Station. Hard to imagine her not running a 2:02, but that's not based on anything other than awe-struckedness.

[Gleason]

I see that Barringer is scheduled to make her outdoor debut in the 800 in Eugene this weekend. By how much will she chew up her 2:09 PR?

Front page article states that she will run 1500 tonight. 1500 on Friday & 800 on Saturday seems like a good idea because she won't have much Big 12 or Regional competiton.

I hope that she runs St./1500 at NCAA & IF she wins those, 1500/St. at USAT&F.

[jazzcyclist]

What do you reckon her 400 speed is about now?

[26mi235]

What do you reckon her 400 speed is about now?

It will be run off of no speed work. However, the steeple requires a lot of accelerations and she might have a bit more for this stage than a standard distance runner at this point in the season. However, since she will likely not be challenged until USATF in anything that 'matters', she may delay systematic (rather than incidental) fast/hard stuff until June after NCAAs (although I do not know the USATF schedule).