7 Russians Lose At CAS Hearing [title changed]

[joeltetreault]

Finally an update (in Russian):

http://www.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/324568

Soboleva still sounds incensed/confused. IAAF chief going to push for a four year ban.

[EPelle]

Russian article was interesting, and, Joel mentioned accurately that Soboleva is still confounded by the entire affair. Soboleva states that she did not steal the money, but earned it properly. She will NOT sell the apartment she bought in Moscow with earnings if it comes to kicking and scratching. Another piece of the puzzle to solve is how much should be paid back (if she loses her case), as 50% went to taxes, her trainer and her manager. Moreover, the USD was at 23 rubles, now it is at 36 rubles.

Editor noted that 697 Russian athletes were tested in 2008, returning 1823 tests. Of those 697 athletes, 106 passed the anti-doping control on four to five occasions; 46 athletes passed six or seven times; 17 athletes passed eight or more. One or several athletes passed the anti-doping control of 14 times.

Isinbaeva, Silnov, Ukhov, Lysenko were administered - and passed - 1-3 tests. Galkina, Borzakovskiy, and Kirdyapkin were administered - and passed - four (or more) tests.

[joeltetreault]

Soboleva et al hearing pushed back

A Russian friend told me about this article he saw yesterday:

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2009/05/06/iaaf/

It seems that their ban is up (from the backdated 2007), but the IAAF has pushed back the hearing until June to decide on whether they are giving four years or not. To me this seems a little strange to drag out this process since the Olympics basically. Give them the four years or not...

[Brettboy]

Editor noted that 697 Russian athletes were tested in 2008, returning 1823 tests. Of those 697 athletes, 106 passed the anti-doping control on four to five occasions; 46 athletes passed six or seven times; 17 athletes passed eight or more. One or several athletes passed the anti-doping control of 14 times.

Isinbaeva, Silnov, Ukhov, Lysenko were administered - and passed - 1-3 tests. Galkina, Borzakovskiy, and Kirdyapkin were administered - and passed - four (or more) tests.

Does it say who conducted those tests, was it WADA or Russian Doping Contol?

To be honest if it was the latter then churning out such figures still doesn't instil much confidence in me, there was obviously some organised approach with these women, whether it be at the coach, club or Federation level.

[EPelle]

The editor didn't state, actually.

[joeltetreault]

Re: Soboleva et al hearing pushed back

A followup on my previous post....this article seems to be a little more informative:

http://news.livesport.ru/others/2009/05/06/cas/

If I am reading this correctly, the delay is because of appeals and counter-appeals by CAS as well as the athletes.

[tandfman]

Re: Soboleva et al hearing pushed back

A followup on my previous post....this article seems to be a little more informative:

http://news.livesport.ru/others/2009/05/06/cas/

Not to me, it's not.

[joeltetreault]

Re: Soboleva et al hearing pushed back

A followup on my previous post....this article seems to be a little more informative:

http://news.livesport.ru/others/2009/05/06/cas/

Not to me, it's not.

I've gotten too used to making sense of Google Translate to do the work for me!

http://translate.google.com/

[tandfman]

For me, that wouldn't be work; it would simply be impossible.

[joeltetreault]

Evidently Soboleva is training right now, and is part of the same group that Andrianova is in (from an interview last month with Andrianova, before Pre):

http://www.rusathletics.com/nov/nov.php?ind=4124

I had a Russian friend translate and Andrianova said the following:

Andrianova is with a new coach and group and has a good relationship with Soboleva who is also in the group and that she is very easy to get along with. They are all awaiting the hearing the decision which is this month...

The training is completely different for her. The new coach pays a lot of attention to cross-training. They do a lot of fast splits with little rest in between. It was really hard for her in the beginning.

[knite]

They are possibly also removing the ability for the ladies to compete before WC's and get a solid qualifier.

[joeltetreault]

Another delay in the ongoing saga of the Russian 7...the hearing that was set for today has been pushed back because of a backlog of paperwork. No date has been set, but maybe in the next month:

http://www.gazeta.ru/news/sport/2009/06 ... 1167.shtml

and an interview with Soboleva from a day or so ago:
http://www.mk.ru/sport/298803.html

at this rate, the IAAF will get the 4 year ban just by continuously putting off the hearing. It has been almost one year since the charges were initially filed against the Russians.

[joeltetreault]

Soboleva and company finally had their hearing last week but the decision on the ban dates hasn't been made yet. One interesting point is that the defense claims that the authorities refused to use sample ‘B’ for the confirmation of the charges. It seems that the lawyers tried to prove that the case was not handled properly and the charges should be dropped.

http://www.infox.ru/sport/summer/2009/0 ... tika.phtml

(had a Russian friend translate)

[gh]

CAS will be making official announcement in one hour.

[donley2]

Did not read the details. Looks like all seven are banned until end of April 2011.

http://www.tas-cas.org/news