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  • eldrick
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    i'm not sure there has been any significant rule change at all

    declare ritalin on a TUE before any meet, & stop taking it 2 - 3/7 before & you'll have a -ve drug test

    bottom line - just don't let it show up on a test at a meet

    it's a standard & necessary treatment as unfortunately, the proper treatment for ADD is expensive family-interactive pyschotherapy, which has limited specialists, long waiting lists & is damn expensive !

    until there are generally x5 the number of specialists to treat it, ritalin will always be 1st choice for ADD - it's cheap & "fixes" the hyperactive kid until he grows up

    i prescribe the stuff by the bucket-load - it's cheap, effective & calms down little tyrone, johnnie, ebeneezer & i don't have to see their tiresome, nagging moms for a few months

    it is a very good treatment

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  • maroon
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    Originally posted by eldrick
    if you declare it on a TUE, & stop taking it a few days before a race ( normally 2 or 3 ) & declare it on the race entry form, it's perfectly OK to take it

    gatlin said he wasn't offered a declaration form back then ( the new, devastating news from this story )

    that is terrible
    my recollection is that the rule under which gatlin got his ban was more lenient than the rule that was put in place after or as a result of the gatlin case. and if my recollection is correct, it is all very ironic, because he would have a better ada argument under the new rule i-- .e. no reasonable accomoation for student atheletes with that particular learning disability. i need to look it up.

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  • maroon
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    Originally posted by richxx87
    Originally posted by maroon

    sorry -- but why are you concluding that they have "admitted guilt/wrongdoing"? isn't adderal still on the banned list?
    Not my words, it is from legal source in the article:
    John Collins, an attorney who has represented athletes against doping charges, including Gatlin. “You have to figure if the settlement is greater than the attorney’s fees, then there may be some admission of guilt. If not, than all they settle for is nuisance value.
    ok, but he is merely speculating twice over. he gives two (opposite) alternatives and makes a conjecture in each case based on his experience. he does not state that either assumption is a fact.

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  • richxx87
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    Originally posted by maroon

    sorry -- but why are you concluding that they have "admitted guilt/wrongdoing"? isn't adderal still on the banned list?
    Not my words, it is from legal source in the article:
    John Collins, an attorney who has represented athletes against doping charges, including Gatlin. “You have to figure if the settlement is greater than the attorney’s fees, then there may be some admission of guilt. If not, than all they settle for is nuisance value.

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  • Law dude
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    It seems pointless to speculate on what the settlement did or did not provide. The linked article makes it clear that the terms of the settlement are not currently known. In fact, they may never be known. Many settlements provide that the terms shall remain confidential. Of course, whether or not this settlement has a confidentiality clause is itself a matter of pure speculation at this point.

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  • eldrick
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    if you declare it on a TUE, & stop taking it a few days before a race ( normally 2 or 3 ) & declare it on the race entry form, it's perfectly OK to take it

    gatlin said he wasn't offered a declaration form back then ( the new, devastating news from this story )

    that is terrible

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  • maroon
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    Originally posted by richxx87
    Interesting situation this brings up. I'm sure this has been rehashed before in previous discussions/speculations by fans and armchair legal eagles. But now that the "four bodies" have effectively admitted guilt/wrongdoing about the first doping incident (the ADD one, not in 2006 as mentioned in the article, but several years earlier), logically and legally, it should render that infraction null and void. So his time spent in suspension (1 year for ADD meds and nearly 3 years for testosterone), means he's already "paid" four years for what is, in strict legal terms, his first actual infraction.

    I wonder if part of the settlement included him "cooperating" by not pursuing any further legal measures and just doing his time quietly until 2010.
    sorry -- but why are you concluding that they have "admitted guilt/wrongdoing"? isn't adderal still on the banned list?

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  • eldrick
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    i'd be surprised about latter

    it woud probably be minimum of $500k minimum/year compensation for 2 lost years competing ( '08/'09 ) as og/wc champ

    that's $1m blow in someone's accounts - usada, usatf or iaaf

    i'd imagine someone can fork out a few $ to see usada or usatf accounts end '09, next year & look for a big hole compared to '08 showing :

    ancillary expenses : $500k+ compared to last tax year...

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  • richxx87
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    Interesting situation this brings up. I'm sure this has been rehashed before in previous discussions/speculations by fans and armchair legal eagles. But now that the "four bodies" have effectively admitted guilt/wrongdoing about the first doping incident (the ADD one, not in 2006 as mentioned in the article, but several years earlier), logically and legally, it should render that infraction null and void. So his time spent in suspension (1 year for ADD meds and nearly 3 years for testosterone), means he's already "paid" four years for what is, in strict legal terms, his first actual infraction.

    I wonder if part of the settlement included him "cooperating" by not pursuing any further legal measures and just doing his time quietly until 2010.

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  • gh
    started a topic Gatlin settles suit with USADA, USOC

    Gatlin settles suit with USADA, USOC

    discrimination issue, regards his ADA medication.

    Full story now on front page.
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