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    Trying to get a little more attention by separating this tread from
    http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... c&start=30


    http://saveuctrack.ning.com now has a petition to show support and help try to “Save The University of Cincinnati Men's Track and XC”

    If you would like to sign the petition go to –
    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/5/save-t ... ack-and-xc

  • #2
    The Save UC Track and CC web site petition has received over 1,100 signatures in less than 72 hours. Lets’ see if we can help them get 2,000 signatures by the end of the week…

    Please pass this information on to your running friends..

    Save UC Track and CC web site - http://saveuctrack.ning.com

    Web site to sign petition -
    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/5/save-t ... ack-and-xc

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    • #3
      Petitions are meaningless, and do nothing more than make the signer feel like they've "done something", which of course they haven't. If someone really wants to save UC's track scholarships they should go out and buy a season ticket package to men's basketball, because ultimately the decline of that once mighty cash cow is why UC athletics is drowning in red ink. It's been coming since August 23, 2005.
      There are no strings on me

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      • #4
        What happened 8/23/05? New AD?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gh
          What happened 8/23/05?

          Bob Huggins run out of town in a power struggle with then-new President, Nancy Zimpher, who not coincidentally is now leaving UC to take the head job with SUNY.

          http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2141113


          When Huggins was coach and the team was consistently a top-10 program, they drew at least 12,000 fans per home game. This past season, attendance continued it's decline post-Huggins, dropping to 7700 per game, a drop of 4000+ per game.

          http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009 ... 6/-1/TODAY

          Now, at an average season ticket price of $480, not counting parking, concessions, booster memberships, advertising, etc, that amounts to a total ticket revenue drop of $1,920,000 per year. The affected scholarships are saving approximately $400,000 on a budget deficit of around $2,000,000.

          http://gobearcats.cstv.com/tickets/cinn ... -mbkb.html

          Until basketball comes back around(not likely soon), expect more, and deeper, cuts. This blood is on Zimpher's hands, but of course she's not around to survey the carnage.
          There are no strings on me

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          • #6
            Not to mention the cost of paying off Huggins' contract. And then there's plans to upgrade the football stadium. My alma mater killed off three sports right after firing a head football coach and immediately prior to sinking $3 million into the football and hockey facilities. The playbook is well-known.

            Petitions are softball. You've got to play serious hardball to get an AD's attention.

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            • #7
              I don't have a problem with the football facility upgrades - they are seeing tremendous growth and fan interest, and the increased revenue through tickets and booster membership(not to mention media, advertising, etc) will more than offset the infrastructure improvements.

              The lead weight right now is men's basketball, and it's a damn shame. It's interesting when a university administration wants an athletic department to be self-sustaining, and pay the general fund for athletic scholarships, but doesn't hesitate to jump in and strong-arm a coach who brought millions of dollars to that athletic department.
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              • #8
                Almost 1,500 signatures so far…keep them coming… http://saveuctrack.ning.com


                Another article in the Cincinnati Enquirer –
                http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009 ... 7/1062/SPT

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by runohio
                  Another article in the Cincinnati Enquirer –
                  http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009 ... 7/1062/SPT
                  As I noted yesterday.

                  http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... 461#531461
                  There are no strings on me

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                  • #10
                    Des Moines Register article before Drake Relays talking about UC - (also listed on the Track and Field News home page)

                    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/articl ... /-1/NEWS04

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                    • #11
                      Interesting article from Cincinnati Enquirer about money issues at UC.

                      The football program went to the Orange Bowl last season - its first Bowl Championship Series bowl appearance - but that didn't produce the financial windfall many might have expected. The school essentially broke even.

                      The internal audit of the Orange Bowl trip has not been completed, but preliminary numbers show UC sold 11,568 tickets, with 1,200 complimentary and 3,432 unsold tickets for which the school was responsible from its allotment of 17,500.

                      "I was hopeful that we would make money on it, but I was going to feel good about the fact that we broke even," Thomas said. "In the predicament that we are in financially, making additional dollars would have helped significantly. But on the flip side, losing significant dollars would have made our challenges even greater."
                      UC athletic director Mike Thomas

                      Read article at - http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009 ... ckcomments

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                      • #12
                        The football-related financial stats Matt conveniently left out.

                        Football ticket revenue for last season was $2.8 million, doubling the 2006 figure of $1.4 million. And UC has made strides in donations to its UCATS booster group, setting a school record in 2008-09 with 3,803 donors who contributed a total of $5.2 million, compared with 2006-07, when 1,962 donors contributed $3.82 million.

                        The school also has increased revenue with the signing of a 12-year multimedia contract with IMG College that will net an additional $15 million, or more than $1 million per year
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                        • #13
                          I just posted the info about their BCS Bowl appearance. Many on this board and others say football makes money going to bowls games, when in fact most do not.

                          I posted the link for all who would like to read the whole article.

                          This was also left off..

                          “Since it opened in May 2005, the Richard E. Lindner Center has been the hub of University of Cincinnati athletics.


                          The stylish building that curves between Nippert Stadium and Fifth Third Arena contains offices for all of the athletic program's coaches and support personnel, as well as state-of-the-art locker rooms, weight and training facilities.

                          It's the signature element of the Varsity Village project that upgraded all of UC's sports facilities while Bob Goin was the athletic director.

                          "Anybody who comes on this campus, whether it's a prospective student-athlete or a parent or people that we compete against, they look at this building in awe," UC athletic director Mike Thomas said. "It certainly makes a statement."

                          But it also has contributed to the financial problems that have left UC running a $2.469 million budget deficit this year.

                          When Varsity Village opened, there was a shortfall of about $17 million due to cost overruns and the failure to meet fundraising goals, Thomas said.

                          "We have debt that we pay every year on this building and we get a subsidy from the university that helps pay that debt, but it doesn't cover it completely," Thomas said. "There's a significant gap between the subsidy and what the real cost is to open these doors."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by runohio
                            I just posted the info about their BCS Bowl appearance. Many on this board and others say football makes money going to bowls games, when in fact most do not.

                            It depends on the bowl. UC did well to break even on the expenses of travelling to the game, which extend well beyond the team itself(cheerleaders, band, etc).

                            But, as I've said before, the financial impact for the university extends well beyond the game itself. A BCS bowl appearance raises the profile of the entire university, and makes it more attractive for potential students(read: tuition) and as can be seen in the numbers I quoted above, gate revenue and booster donations have increased dramatically.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by guru
                              But, as I've said before, the financial impact for the university extends well beyond the game itself. A BCS bowl appearance raises the profile of the entire university, and makes it more attractive for potential students(read: tuition)......

                              Ahem......

                              http://tinyurl.com/df7rje
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