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  • Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

    Starting a fresh thread, as the old one was getting a bit long in tooth.

    The teams listed so far are Oregon, Virginia, two teams from the OTC ( Eugene and Portland), Australia, and a "to be named" college team.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield ... ry_12.html

    For Oregon: two Olympians, the current NCAA 1500 leader, and a surprise.

    Matt Centrowitz 's 3:36.92 (1500m) at Cardinal Invitational translates to a 3:53.6 mile. His stock has gone from a great prospect to a bonafide star - redshirt freshman- age 19! :shock: 8-)

    Andrew Wheating is certainly capable of a 3:57 or better.

    Galen Rupp is a golden 3:58 +/- 8-)

    The fourth member is.....

    Not AJ Acosta (3:58) as he is redshirting because of a lingering injury.
    Probably not Jordan McNamera ( 3:41 1500m) - again ?injury/rehab

    so...

    Scott Wall (3:44 1500m) ?
    JK Withers( 3:45 1300m) ?
    Shadrack Kiptoo-Biwott ?

    All three are capable of keeping Oregon in the hunt. Shadrack I don't believe has American citizenship. My bet would be Scott Wall.

    Now when I listed the possible times for the UO runners, that would be for a conventional mile race. One would think they would be several seconds slower if they have to do sequential solo mile runs, unless there is mutual pacing help from the other teams. 8-)

    Also with the caliber of competition, no sure thing the UO will win this 4XMile!
    :lol:

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    Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

    Originally posted by jkjoregon
    The teams listed so far are Oregon, Virginia, two teams from the OTC ( Eugene and Portland), Australia, and a "to be named" college team.
    Where are the teams named?

    I'm intrigued about the Aussie team - not sure who is over there at the moment (outside of college kids)...

    I thought the the rumour had been that NZ would field a team.

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    • #3
      Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

      Originally posted by AS
      Originally posted by jkjoregon
      The teams listed so far are Oregon, Virginia, two teams from the OTC ( Eugene and Portland), Australia, and a "to be named" college team.
      Where are the teams named?

      I'm intrigued about the Aussie team - not sure who is over there at the moment (outside of college kids)...

      I thought the the rumour had been that NZ would field a team.
      Vince must have been mistaken when he mentioned NZ.... I suspect he meant to say Australia.

      There is a list of Aussie runners on a Letsrun post. Can't vouch for it, but here it is....

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      aussie team:

      birmingham 3.37 PB
      huffer 3.39 PB
      Bromley 3.39 PB
      St Lawrence NT - 7.55 3km

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      I haven't seen a recent "official" update this week on the teams- would suspect we will know more in a few days..... 8-)

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      • #4
        Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

        Originally posted by jkjoregon
        There is a list of Aussie runners on a Letsrun post. Can't vouch for it, but here it is....

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        aussie team:

        birmingham 3.37 PB
        huffer 3.39 PB
        Bromley 3.39 PB
        St Lawrence NT - 7.55 3km
        It's unlikely to include Collis Birmingham, as he landed back in Oz (and raced) over weekend:
        http://www.athletics.com.au/news/news/2 ... _to_where_

        Perhaps Paul Hoffman will take his place (was in US training with Huffer etc) -PRs 3.39.63 & 4:00.10.

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        • #5
          Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

          Originally posted by jkjoregon
          Matt Centrowitz 's 3:36.92 (1500m) at Cardinal Invitational translates to a 3:53.6 mile.
          This is a little aggressive; the standard 8% conversion gives 3:54.27.

          Also, note how many guys were within about a second of Centro; he outkicked everyone and won the race, but it was a mass finish for this fast a race of mainly collegians. Maybe the biggest deal of it all was that in this fast of a race he had the kick to pull out the victory from ~6th place, which bodes well for championship racing.

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          • #6
            Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

            Originally posted by AS
            Originally posted by jkjoregon
            There is a list of Aussie runners on a Letsrun post. Can't vouch for it, but here it is....

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            aussie team:

            birmingham 3.37 PB
            huffer 3.39 PB
            Bromley 3.39 PB
            St Lawrence NT - 7.55 3km
            It's unlikely to include Collis Birmingham, as he landed back in Oz (and raced) over weekend:
            http://www.athletics.com.au/news/news/2 ... _to_where_

            Perhaps Paul Hoffman will take his place (was in US training with Huffer etc) -PRs 3.39.63 & 4:00.10.
            Ryan Gregson ran at Penn but he mentioned going to Osaka within a week or two of the Penn Relays. So he may not be an option.

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            • #7
              Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

              Originally posted by Dutra
              Ryan Gregson ran at Penn but he mentioned going to Osaka within a week or two of the Penn Relays. So he may not be an option.
              Yeah, Gregson is mentioned here as heading off to run an 800m in Osaka:

              http://www.athletics.com.au/news/news/2 ... t_overseas

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              • #8
                Re: Oregon twilight: 4X Mile

                Originally posted by jkjoregon
                Galen Rupp is a golden 3:58 +/-
                On a relay, outdoors in front of his home fans, I think he's got a 3.56 in him (59-60-60-57). His wheels are turning a bit faster this season; too bad he couldn't find that extra 0,01s in his legs at the week-end (1.50,00).

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                • #9
                  If several of the top runners had not departed Wisconsin when Schumacher departed, Wisconsin could give Oregon a run for the money. Miller and Bolas both ran 3:37 in the race won by Centro, Bethke recently ran ~13:27 (will he finally give up the SC for the flat races?) and Jager had a similar time at Stanford this week (and both have run under 4:00), while Ryan Gaspar just ran 8:43SC at Stanford. (And Finnerty is in the wings and perpetually dinged up Eagon and Withrow also departed, although the mile is a little short for them).

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                  • #10
                    The Oregon Track Club Elite (Eugene) tentative team....
                    Tom Brooks
                    Stephen Pifer
                    Russell Brown
                    Gabe Jennings "The Gabester"

                    Will there be a Bongo Drum ensemble in the East grandstands? :lol:

                    http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/si ... /story.csp

                    Another OTC group from Portland - presumably some of Schumacher's athletes would be included- is scheduled to be there also. 8-)

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                    • #11
                      Wisdom from Ray Flynn....

                      http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield ... _luck.html
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                      "Flynn said the hard thing about this race is that after the first leg is done, the next three guys are essentially time-trialing by themselves. And pacing to a sub-four isn't easy, even with fans imploring you the entire way."
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                      It is going to be tough! :shock:

                      Most are speculating that it will be Shadrack Biwott as the fourth member. Since he is appearing at "Tracktown Tuesdays" tonight with Vince Lananna to talk about the 4XMile attempt, probably a good choice. That would mean the Collegiate, but not the American record will be in play for the UO team.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jkjoregon
                        The Oregon Track Club Elite (Eugene) tentative team....
                        Tom Brooks
                        Stephen Pifer
                        Russell Brown
                        Gabe Jennings "The Gabester"
                        Jennings is also listed as an entry in the USA 1 Mile Road Race Championship in Minnesota Thursday. Is he really doing to do both?

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                        • #13
                          Gabe is supposed to be at the "Tracktown Tuesdays" hosted by Vince Lananna tonight and I will ask him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tandfman
                            Jennings is also listed as an entry in the USA 1 Mile Road Race Championship in Minnesota Thursday. Is he really doing to do both?
                            No he isn't -He was at "Tracktown Tuesday" tonight and I asked him that question.

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                            • #15
                              According to Dan Steele, the race is still not a done deal. Only two confirmed teams so far--Oregon and OTC Elite. They are still trying to get confirmations. Said they'll know more in the next day or so. Fingers crossed.

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