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  • #16
    Originally posted by The Atheist
    By the way,has Wallace Spearmon run a 200m race yet this season?

    The only race of any sort I heard of him racing so far this season was his 400m race against Tyson Gay recently.

    Did he even run in any relays? Why is he starting the season so late?
    Yes, per preracejitters.com;

    "Spearmon doubled up finished second in the 200 meters running 20.60 to place second in heat behind winner Kellie Willie in 20.45 and ahead of Michael Rodgers (20.61). In heat #2, Brendan Christian won the event overall running 19.98, however the wind (+2.8) was overall the allowable limit. Trey Harts finished third overall, the top collegiate runner, in the men’s 200 meters with a time of 20.33. The time is the second-fastest in the NCAA this season, behind Harts’ 20.29 set at the Michael Johnson Classic."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nrh
      Originally posted by The Atheist
      By the way,has Wallace Spearmon run a 200m race yet this season?

      The only race of any sort I heard of him racing so far this season was his 400m race against Tyson Gay recently.

      Did he even run in any relays? Why is he starting the season so late?
      Yes, per preracejitters.com;

      "Spearmon doubled up finished second in the 200 meters running 20.60 to place second in heat behind winner Kellie Willie in 20.45 and ahead of Michael Rodgers (20.61). In heat #2, Brendan Christian won the event overall running 19.98, however the wind (+2.8) was overall the allowable limit. Trey Harts finished third overall, the top collegiate runner, in the men’s 200 meters with a time of 20.33. The time is the second-fastest in the NCAA this season, behind Harts’ 20.29 set at the Michael Johnson Classic."
      He also ran a 400m leg at Penn splitting 45.x
      The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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      • #18
        Originally posted by scratchman
        I think X should concentrate on the 400.
        He has the blazing speed and stamina to be a force in that event, provided he stays free of injuries. I alawys said that it would take a bonafide quarter miler with sub 20 200 speed to beat JW- and thats what happened. Only X has run much faster than Merritt in the deuce. Imagine if could stay healthy and focus on that event alone. This is a great time for X to begin emerging in the 400.
        Dave Johnson's predictions are the best IMHO. FULL DISCLOSURE Dave & I have been friends since his days as T&FN statistician.

        I hope that his info is wrong about "X-Man's" running 200. His record isn't good in USAT&F and OT..

        2005 = Ninth
        2006 = DNC
        2007 = DNF Semi
        2008 = DNC final after Eighth in 100

        PLEASE "X-Man" try the 400! I hope that he runs 400 at Reebok, Berlin & Ostrava plus 300 at Pre. Enter 200. 200 heat is two hours before 400 final.

        In 2005 he ran 20.08 an hour before 44.0r at NCAA.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gleason
          Originally posted by scratchman
          I think X should concentrate on the 400.
          He has the blazing speed and stamina to be a force in that event, provided he stays free of injuries. I alawys said that it would take a bonafide quarter miler with sub 20 200 speed to beat JW- and thats what happened. Only X has run much faster than Merritt in the deuce. Imagine if could stay healthy and focus on that event alone. This is a great time for X to begin emerging in the 400.
          I agree.

          I think for X to be competitive with LaShawn and Jeremy if he were to run the 400m, he is gonna have to execute his race better. By that I mean staying relaxed more, distributing his energy over the race more effectively. X-Man form falls apart at the end of both his 200 and 400 races, he cannot get away with that against LaShawn and Jeremy.
          on the road

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          • #20
            How many times has he gone sub 20?

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            • #21
              Four: three in 2006 and one in 2007.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by EPelle
                Four: three in 2006 and one in 2007.
                His performances have really fallen off since he switched to track full time. It's almost like he needs to go back to training for football in the fall and track in the spring.

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                • #23
                  His performances have fallen off, since he has not been healthy since 2006. Thats the real thing.

                  In 07 he dislocated his knee cap, in 08 he had chipped bones in his ankle.

                  I'd like to see X have 2 consistent injury free season and figure out a way to train in Baton Rogue again............

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                  • #24
                    I thought being in Baton Rogue might have been one of his problems.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by guruof track
                      His performances have fallen off, since he has not been healthy since 2006. Thats the real thing.

                      In 07 he dislocated his knee cap, in 08 he had chipped bones in his ankle.

                      I'd like to see X have 2 consistent injury free season and figure out a way to train in Baton Rogue again............
                      Even before he dislocated his knee at the 2007 USATF Championships, he wasn't the man he was in 2006. When he was a full time student and juggling track and football, his life was structured in a way that it isn't as a full-time pro track athlete, so self-discipline was not needed. He needs to be able to discipline himself as though he were still in college and being told what to do by Les Miles and Dennis Shaver.

                      Everybody remembers what he did in 2006, but what he did in 2005, is just as remarkable IMO. In April at the Alumni meet at LSU, he stepped on the track one week after finishing up with spring football and ran 45.65. :shock: Of course he had to be carried of the track, but how many people could have done that just off of football conditioning? One week later at Penn, it was more of the same, when after every race he seemed to die a thousand deaths as he tried to get in shape before NCAA's. A month later he started to round into form and beat both Tyson Gay (the 2005 World Champs 4th place finisher) and Wallace Spearmon (the 2005 World Champs Silver medalist) twice at both SEC's and regionals. And as Epelle has pointed out, in early June, he ran 20.08 at NCAA's and then came back an hour later and ran a 44-flat relay leg. All of this was accomplished with less than two months of dedicated track training.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by scratchman
                        I think for X to be competitive with LaShawn and Jeremy if he were to run the 400m, he is gonna have to execute his race better. By that I mean staying relaxed more, distributing his energy over the race more effectively. X-Man form falls apart at the end of both his 200 and 400 races, he cannot get away with that against LaShawn and Jeremy.
                        I agree BUT "X-Man" doesn't have to be running for first, I'd be happy if he runs for third at Berlin.

                        Tyson Gay, Walter Dix, Wallace Spearmon, Shawn Crawford and Rodney Martin are cabable of earning 200 medals behind Bolt.

                        I have less confidence in the third & fourth 400 runners, so go "X-Man!"
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Gleason
                          Originally posted by scratchman
                          I think for X to be competitive with LaShawn and Jeremy if he were to run the 400m, he is gonna have to execute his race better. By that I mean staying relaxed more, distributing his energy over the race more effectively. X-Man form falls apart at the end of both his 200 and 400 races, he cannot get away with that against LaShawn and Jeremy.
                          I agree BUT "X-Man" doesn't have to be running for first, I'd be happy if he runs for third at Berlin.

                          Tyson Gay, Walter Dix, Wallace Spearmon, Shawn Crawford and Rodney Martin are cabable of earning 200 medals behind Bolt.

                          I have less confidence in the third & fourth 400 runners, so go "X-Man!"
                          Rodney Martin can't beat X in the duece (no disrespect)

                          Wallace Spearmon and Shawn Crawford look like a shell of themselves at this point in the season.

                          I'd rather see X in the 400 myself, but the 200 seems to be wide open at this point......especially if Tyson isn't running. Dix is the only person I see who is clearly better at this point who he may run against at US Champs.

                          But given Dix situation, I'm not sure how much we can put into that especially when he is doubling.

                          The dynamics are much more complicated than you make them out to be Gleason.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by scratchman
                            Rodney Martin can't beat X in the duece (no disrespect)
                            Wallace Spearmon and Shawn Crawford look like a shell of themselves at this point in the season.
                            I'd rather see X in the 400 myself, but the 200 seems to be wide open at this point......especially if Tyson isn't running. Dix is the only person I see who is clearly better at this point who he may run against at US Champs.
                            But given Dix situation, I'm not sure how much we can put into that especially when he is doubling.
                            The dynamics are much more complicated than you make them out to be Gleason.
                            I agree that "X-Man" is better than Martin at 200. Martin was fourth at Osaka.

                            Crawford and Dix started slowly in 2008, then finished well.
                            Spearmon is experienced & will medal if he makes the team.
                            Look at their records.

                            U.S. has four places in 100/200/400/400H, so chances of medals are good.

                            Gay, Spearmon, Crawford, Dix and Martin are five sprinters who have finished fourth or higher at global 200 championships, so they should be four chances at two medals.

                            Neville is the only 400 sprinter with those qualifications, if Rock and 2004 medalists are eliminated.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Gleason
                              Originally posted by scratchman
                              I think for X to be competitive with LaShawn and Jeremy if he were to run the 400m, he is gonna have to execute his race better. By that I mean staying relaxed more, distributing his energy over the race more effectively. X-Man form falls apart at the end of both his 200 and 400 races, he cannot get away with that against LaShawn and Jeremy.
                              I agree BUT "X-Man" doesn't have to be running for first, I'd be happy if he runs for third at Berlin.

                              Tyson Gay, Walter Dix, Wallace Spearmon, Shawn Crawford and Rodney Martin are cabable of earning 200 medals behind Bolt.

                              I have less confidence in the third & fourth 400 runners, so go "X-Man!"
                              This is what I was thinking. At this point beating JW and Merritt isnt all that realistic.

                              But making the team in the 400 certainly is for X.

                              Outside of those two there haven't been many great US performances.

                              I think making it in the deuce, even with Gay's bye, the 200 would be tougher.

                              Doc is doubling, Dix, Crawford, Spearmon etc.And JW is running the deuce at trials.

                              Xman may be able to beat a couple of them but why try when the 400 is virtually wide open outside of Merritt?
                              The fool has said...there is no God. Psa 14

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                              • #30
                                in theory, X-man probably has the greatest potential as a pure 200 meter specialist. don't forget he ran 19.6 something a few years ago.

                                he has massive talent in terms of his power, max speed and overall strength.

                                what he seems to lack at this point is effecient sprinting mechanics, relaxation at top speed and good execution of each phase of his races. and, he has had injury problems. seems erratic.

                                what's bloody amazing is that he's run as fast as he has with marginal technique.

                                lets hope his coach, supposedly Brooks Johnson, is actually teaching X-man the physics of sprinting - including how to relax, be more fluid and be able to harness power instead of fighting himself.

                                not convinced that 400 is the best application of his talent. i say 200, if he can learn how to sprint and stay healthy.

                                lets hope he's getting some good guidance and he's got the right mentality to take to the next level.

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