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  • Who is the youngest and oldest American to run a sub 4 mile?

    Maybe this has been covered in a previous thread...but I don't know and am curious. Could the youngest be Jim Ryun and the oldest ???

  • #2
    You should be able to answer q1 with this:
    https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/archi ... Sub-4s.pdf

    HSers on list:
    Ryun June 5, 1964 (dob Apr 24, 1947 - so 17 y, 37 days)
    Tim Danielson June 11, 1966 (I can't find dob)
    Marty Liquori June 23, 1967 (dob 11 September 1949, around 17y, 9 months)
    Alan Webb January 20, 2001 (dob Jan 13, 1983 - so 18 y, 7 days)

    I'd guess Ryun.

    Re: oldest, I'm guessing Steve Scott - he was around 37 when he ran his 136th and last sub-4 (see http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ ... /index.htm)

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    • #3
      I think you're right.

      Another twist - oldest American to break 4 for the 1st time?

      Believe it's George Young, 1955 HS grad, broke 4:00 1st time on 3/4/1972

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      • #4
        I wasn't aware of that...George Young running a sub four at age 17...what was his time?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lovetorun
          I wasn't aware of that...George Young running a sub four at age 17...what was his time?
          Graduated from HS in 1955, makes him about about 35 when he first ran a sub-4.

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          • #6
            He was born in July, 1937, so he was 34.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AS
              You should be able to answer q1 with this:
              https://www.trackandfieldnews.com/archi ... Sub-4s.pdf

              HSers on list:
              Ryun June 5, 1964 (dob Apr 24, 1947 - so 17 y, 37 days)
              Tim Danielson June 11, 1966 (I can't find dob)
              Marty Liquori June 23, 1967 (dob 11 September 1949, around 17y, 9 months)
              Alan Webb January 20, 2001 (dob Jan 13, 1983 - so 18 y, 7 days)

              I'd guess Ryun.

              Re: oldest, I'm guessing Steve Scott - he was around 37 when he ran his 136th and last sub-4 (see http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ ... /index.htm)
              Danielson December 3, 1947, so he was already 18.5

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              • #8
                Didn't Jim Sorenson run one when he was 38 or 39? Epelle would know.

                Also, Fernandez, while already a frosh, was still pretty young when he ran his first.

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                • #9
                  I remember both John Walker and Eamonn Coghlan attempting to break 4:00 at age 40, but I don't think either of them quite made it. Can't remember the actual times.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Half Miler
                    I remember both John Walker and Eamonn Coghlan attempting to break 4:00 at age 40, but I don't think either of them quite made it. Can't remember the actual times.
                    !!

                    Coughlan ran 3:58 indoors at age (if I remember correctly) 41.

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                    • #11
                      On a related note, is anyone still keeping the list for most sub-4s by a single athlete? I remember Steve Scott being the first with 100 sub-4s, and I think Walker reached that milestone as well.

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                      • #12
                        kuha wins.

                        From wikipedia:

                        Sub 4 at 40

                        In 1994 Eamonn became the first and, as of April 2009 only -- man over age 40 to run a sub-four-minute mile on the Harvard University indoor track. He was 41 at the time.

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                        • #13
                          Oldest Sub-4:00 Milers (World):

                          41y, 88d 3:58.15 i Eamonn Coghlan (Ire) 24.11.52 1 Allston 20 Feb 94
                          38y, 227d 3:55.59 Mike Boit (Ken) 01.06.49 6 Berlin 21 Aug 87
                          38y, 217d 3:57.02 John Walker (NZL) 12.01.52 2 Gateshead 17 Aug 90
                          37y, 27d 3:56.83 i Laban Rotich (Ken) 20.01.69 3 Boston 28 Jan 06
                          36y, 291d 3:59.88 Steve Scott (USA) 05.05.56 3 Los Angeles 20 Feb 93
                          36y, 76d 3:56.35 Marcus O’Sullivan (Ire) 11.12.61 3 Melbourne 25 Feb 98
                          35y, 357d 3:56.76 William Tanui (Ken) 22.02.64 5 Lievin 13 Feb 00
                          35y, 115d 3:59.15 Wilson Waigwa (Ken) 15.02.49 Gateshead 10 Jun 84

                          Next oldest American, I believe, is:

                          34y, 223d 3:59.8 George Young (USA) 24.07.37 Los Angeles 4 Mar 72

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                          • #14
                            And Young wasn't even a miler!

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                            • #15
                              Did Walker(38) run 3:55.19 /Monaco, Aug. '90? (Boit was even faster at
                              38 - 3:37.01 1500, worth c.3:54.4?)

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