Last Time a 4.10 at H.S. League Only Placed Third?

[EPelle]

A remarkable performance by DH's Valdes twins and Zak Phillips at the South Coast Finals:

Boys 1600 Meter Run Varsity Boys# Name Year School Finals

Finals

1 Valdes, Tyler 12 Dana Hills 4:09.95
2 Phillips, Zak 12 Dana Hills 4:10.67
3 Cameron, James 12 Mission Viej 4:10.95
4 Valdes, Ryan 12 Dana Hills 4:12.38
5 Neumann, D.j. 12 San Clemente 4:16.46
6 Riley, Parker 12 Mission Viej 4:23.20
7 Djokovich, Cameron 12 Dana Hills 4:23.78
8 Dean, Josh 12 Dana Hills 4:27.69
9 Thompson, Sean 11 Aliso Niguel 4:29.23
10 Cole, Westin 12 Mission Viej 4:34.96
11 Howman, Anders 12 Capistrano V 4:42.04

How many schools have had three under 4.13 in a conference/league championship? When was the last time a high school guy ran a 4.10 and only placed third in his conference final?

[26mi235]

What is the HS record for the 4xmile (4x1600?). A sub-17 seems feasible.

[EPelle]

Hopefully TFN is up-to-date on the records section:

4 x 1500 16:03.7 South, Eugene, Oregon Eugene, Oregon 4/30/02
(Eric Mason 4:05.6, John Chambers 4:05.1, Will Kimball 3:58.5, Matt McGuirk 3:54.5)

4 x Mile+ 17:06.6 South, Eugene, Oregon Eugene, Oregon 5/07/76
(Dirk Lakeman 4:16.9, Chris Nielsen 4:19.7, Bill McChesney 4:11.8, John Gustafson 4:18.2)

[jhc68]

How many kids qualify for the CIF prelims? Some quality runners here never make it out of the league.

[gm]

How about this one from a district meet in 2003...

1,600
1, Steve Magness, Klein Oak 4:01.58
2, Eric Stanley, Klein 4:03.77
3, Brian Sullivan, The Woodlands 4:11.14

You run 4:03+ and get beat.

[bad hammy]

How many kids qualify for the CIF prelims? Some quality runners here never make it out of the league.

Maybe we can split CA into six or eight classes so that everyone gets a medal . . .

[EPelle]

How many kids qualify for the CIF prelims? Some quality runners here never make it out of the league.

That was a problem with Jesuit back in the day (1986): Both Mastalir twins (each whom had run 4.04 open) in the 1.600m left only one other available spot in the entire conference to qualify for the Sac Joaquin prelims. I may be mistaken, but I believe Jim Thomas of Jesuit grabbed that spot, leaving no qualifiers from any other schools. His brother, Paul, won the 1987 CA CIF State 3.200m and placed second in the 1.600m.

[jhc68]

Apparently the 1st 5 made it through to CIF prelims. The kid in 6th at 4:23.78 was out while the Ocean League champ from Santa Monica is in at 4:37.

Oh, well. C'est la vie, say the old folks...

[BisonHurdler]

How about this one from a district meet in 2003...

1,600
1, Steve Magness, Klein Oak 4:01.58
2, Eric Stanley, Klein 4:03.77
3, Brian Sullivan, The Woodlands 4:11.14

You run 4:03+ and get beat.

Dammit, I was just reading this thread and that very race popped into my head, but you beat me to it.

Sullivan runs a 4:11 and doesn't make it to the state meet. Ouch.

[lonewolf]

Sullivan runs a 4:11 and doesn't make it to the state meet. Ouch.

All Finals at State. Only two from each of four Regions make it. Sometimes 4.11 stays home and 4:20+ from another Region goes.
On the other hand, I remember an instance 30 + years when a kid from West Texas, who had never broken 4:20, came to State and beat the 4:08 kids from Houston.