Are Good Horizontal Jump Coaches becoming rare?

[Speedfirst]

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There are still enough athletes performing in both events where the blame shouldn't be placed on other sports, or events.

There just aren't enough great athletes.

Not true, again the athletes who are actually competing and being coached have to get the job done. This of course would be in conjunction with the coaching. As coaches you have a part to do and so does the athletes.

[gh]

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There are still enough athletes performing in both events where the blame shouldn't be placed on other sports, or events.

There just aren't enough great athletes.

[Barto]

I see fewer and fewer kids capable of standing alone on the runway and functioning mentally/emotionally. Not enough abusive parents in the world. :wink:

[Speedfirst]

Bottom line is this, the athletes still have to perform/execute their craft.

As a coach we give the athletes the necessary tools/resources to perform and once the athlete steps on the runway, execution must take place.

There are still enough athletes performing in both events where the blame shouldn't be placed on other sports, or events.

[ndamix]

I blame the 1600.
:lol:


OK, seriously, in Texas, I blame the 4x200. Crap relay has ruined the 400 and probably stolen a few kids from other events.

***grumbling*** Damn'd double points.... :evil: :evil: :lol: :lol:

[gm]

I blame the 1600.
:lol:


OK, seriously, in Texas, I blame the 4x200. Crap relay has ruined the 400 and probably stolen a few kids from other events.

[Marlow]

Yeah, I'm back with my crow pie. HS top-10 list. Note dates.

LONG JUMP
26-9.25 Dion Bentley (Penn Hills, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) 89
26-8.50 *Sheddric Fields (South Oak Cliff, Dallas, Texas) 91
26-8.25 Carl Lewis (Willingboro, New Jersey) 79
26-5.50 Charles Smith (Las Vegas, Nevada) 84
26-4.75 James Stallworth (Tulare, California) 89
26-2.25 Ken Duncan (McClatchy, Sacramento, California) 72
26-2(A)i Jerry Proctor (Muir, Pasadena, California) 67
26-1.50 Todd Trimble (Southeast, Kansas City, Missouri) 89
26-0.75 Joe Richardson (Pasadena, California) 84
26-0 Johnny Cleveland (Soquel, California) 84

1967 - 1991, not so bono picture.

[gh]

Here's a relevant earlier thread that begin in '03, and was revived in '05:

http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... c317f24c46

If you don't want to read the whole thing, here's a germane post I put in it in '05:

<<We cranked some numbers on this a year or two back and the picture isnt' a pretty one, even though I can't put my hands on the exact stats at the moment. But to answer your decade question, last year there was one HS 25-footer. 10 years ago there were 2, 20 years ago there were 4 (and two of them were 26-footers).

The ATL in the latest edition of HST goes 30-deep (to 25-5 1/2). Of those 30 guys, two made their marks in '01. They're the only ones this millenium.

2 from the '00s (still only 5.5 seasons deep)
6 from the '90s
13 from the '80s
7 from the '70s
2 from the '60s>>

[ndamix]

good long jumpers, methinks, tend to have bodies that are also built for something else..... that 500-pound gorilla known as football. And in these days of sport-specialization....

HS jumpers are doing fine, so I also lay this at the feet of football (and to some degree, basketball). I am just now starting to see HS kids specializing more and more too.

Co-sign....

Also, a lot of good jumpers tend gravitate towards the sprints due to those events being a little more glamorous.

I know of a # of athletes who were good jumpers who could sprint well. But as they got older...well you know how that story goes.

[Marlow]

good long jumpers, methinks, tend to have bodies that are also built for something else..... that 500-pound gorilla known as football. And in these days of sport-specialization....

HS jumpers are doing fine, so I also lay this at the feet of football (and to some degree, basketball). I am just now starting to see HS kids specializing more and more too.

[gh]

This has little/nothing to do with coaching. Look at the high school lists the last few years and see how 25-footers have become almost extinct (I know we've had a thread on that at some point).

Why? Because good long jumpers, methinks, tend to have bodies that are also built for something else..... that 500-pound gorilla known as football.

And in these days of sport-specialization....

[ndamix]

Re: Are Good Horizontal Jump Coaches becoming rare?

As I scanned the results of this past weekends collegiate performances I couldn't help but notice the extremely mediocre results in the long and triple jumps.

Only 3 male athletes exceeded 16.50 in the TJ and one of those kids (Will Claye) is supposed to be in high school.

What has happened to the SEC? The Long jump was won with a jump of 7.84 and the Triple's best mark was 15.76, :x

I can say the same for the PAC 10, no one over 8m in the Long and only one jumper over 7.80? And what has become of the triple jump in that conference?
15.88 the winning mark.

Have collegiate horizontal coaches become all talk and no technique?


What has happened to the SEC? The Long jump was won with a jump of 7.84 and the Triple's best mark was 15.76 I believe rain plagued the SEC meet causing cool tempratures which may have affected the jumping events.

I think folks need to keep in mind that one is not going to see a variety of collegians bust world-class performances @ conference meets; especially when many of those athletes are doubling, tripling, and even quadrupling trying to get points for their teams unlike the HS athlete you mention.

[boomervandal]

As I scanned the results of this past weekends collegiate performances I couldn't help but notice the extremely mediocre results in the long and triple jumps.

Only 3 male athletes exceeded 16.50 in the TJ and one of those kids (Will Claye) is supposed to be in high school.

What has happened to the SEC? The Long jump was won with a jump of 7.84 and the Triple's best mark was 15.76, :x

I can say the same for the PAC 10, no one over 8m in the Long and only one jumper over 7.80? And what has become of the triple jump in that conference?
15.88 the winning mark.

Have collegiate horizontal coaches become all talk and no technique?

Bryce Lamb, a High School Senior from Arizona, would have won almost every major conference triple jump championship this year with exception to the Big 12.