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Originally posted by ghThat prospect has been raised here before. Oregonian columnist predicts that's what will happen. Story now on front page.
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It wouldn't be out of the question for his big 10.000m race forthcoming at USATF. He's turning the wheels faster than he ever has at 800m. Two speed rounds (q and F) in the 1.500m and one hard pace workout in the 5.000m followed by a bit of fine-tuning and rest = good planning for the 25-lap distance a couple of weeks later.
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Originally posted by EPelleIt wouldn't be out of the question for his big 10.000m race forthcoming at USATF. He's turning the wheels faster than he ever has at 800m. Two speed rounds (q and F) in the 1.500m and one hard pace workout in the 5.000m followed by a bit of fine-tuning and rest = good planning for the 25-lap distance a couple of weeks later.
Add to the fact that there are rounds for the 1500m's as well albeit I don't think both events have 3 rounds...
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Yes, the 5.000m has a Q race. I did not mention it, because it will not be the hard pace workout the final will be; only 600m of that 5.000m will be used at a significant pace. I mentioned the two 1.500m races, because Rupp will need every bit of his strength and speed to q and then contest the final.
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I doubt that the 1500 heats will be quite that hard, as there are not very many runners that can run 3:45 and they will not want to give their max for the prelim. I suspect an opening 64/64 is not beyond question, and with no reason to get any more than top 5(?) it will be a muted sprint to the finish in the final as well. Of course, the Big 10 1500 closed in 'about 1:50' according to Miller, who won it.
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Originally posted by 26mi235I doubt that the 1500 heats will be quite that hard, as there are not very many runners that can run 3:45 and they will not want to give their max for the prelim.
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Originally posted by 26mi235I doubt that the 1500 heats will be quite that hard, as there are not very many runners that can run 3:45 and they will not want to give their max for the prelim. I suspect an opening 64/64 is not beyond question, and with no reason to get any more than top 5(?) it will be a muted sprint to the finish in the final as well. Of course, the Big 10 1500 closed in 'about 1:50' according to Miller, who won it.
At least 16 of those guys are better than a 3:41-ish 1500m race. I don't think the prelims will be what gives him the pressure, but comign back for the final after the 2 rounds of the 5k and then possibly 1 (2?) rounds of the 1500?
Not sure....
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what it has taken to make the 1500 final this decade (the Q number given here is what the slowest advancer ran in the heats):
2000
(Durham, June 3)
(20 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:45.44)
2001
(Eugene, June 2)
(19 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:44.73)
2002
(Baton Rouge, June 1)
(20 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:45.19)
2003
(Sacramento, June 14)
(26 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:44.78)
2004
(Austin, June 12)
(27 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:47.49)
2005
(Sacramento, June 11)
(26 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:41.96)
2006
(Sacramento, June 10)
(26 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:48.34)
2007
(Sacramento, June 9)
(27 contestants, 12 finalists; Q—3:44.54)
2008
(Des Moines, June 14)
(26 contestants, 15* finalists; Q—3:43.86)
*=3 advanced on falls; I didn't include their times
So the average for the 9 years is 3:45.05.
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Originally posted by guruof trackI don't see Rupp placing higher than 3rd in the 1500. But still a good strategy for Oregon as a team (ironic, I can remember Rupp getting ripped for being a bad teammate).
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Originally posted by KevinMOriginally posted by guruof trackI don't see Rupp placing higher than 3rd in the 1500. But still a good strategy for Oregon as a team (ironic, I can remember Rupp getting ripped for being a bad teammate).
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