NCAA m1500: how good?

[26mi235]

How good is the men's field in the 1500 at the NCAAs? Even without two Oregon stars, Rupp and Wheating, here is the Men's field predictions from TFN - a 3:37 guy, third last year, does not even get points. When was the last time the field was better than this going in?

1. ***Matthew Centrowitz Oregon
2. ***German Fernandez Oklahoma State
3. Lee Emanuel’ New Mexico
4. *Dorian Ulrey Arkansas
5. Garrett Heath Stanford
6. Andy McClary Arkansas
7. *Craig Miller Wisconsin
8. ***David McCarthy’ Providence
9. *Jack Bolas Wisconsin
10. **Matthew Gibney’ Villanova

[jkjoregon]

It's going to be good. 8-)
Centro got pushed by Rupp at regionals; hope he isn't peaking too soon.
Fernandez has had a pretty easy time getting to NCAA's- might be an advantage ? On the other hand, Cento's races might have toughened him up?

Plenty of others that could take this too. Jordon McNamera might be a surprise and score higher than the form charts.

[Half Miler]

Throw in Andrew Bumbalough as well.

[knite]

Throw in Andrew Bumbalough as well.

Andrew has redshirted this outdoor season, in order to have a full year of eligibility next yr for the Hoyas. Thus I would NOT count out Liam Boylan-Pett, who's run quite well for the Hoyas in Bumbalough's absence.

He should be quite a Sr coming back with PR of 13:30x/3:38x this spring!

[Master Po]

How typical/atypical is it to have two frosh at the top of the formchart in this event? (or other events)

[Half Miler]

Throw in Andrew Bumbalough as well.

Andrew has redshirted this outdoor season, in order to have a full year of eligibility next yr for the Hoyas. Thus I would NOT count out Liam Boylan-Pett, who's run quite well for the Hoyas in Bumbalough's absence.

He should be quite a Sr coming back with PR of 13:30x/3:38x this spring!

Thanks, didn't realize this. Along with Evan Jager, he will be missed in this event.

[gh]

best-ever marks-for-place at NCAA:

1. 3:35.30 Sydney Maree 81
2. 3:37.26 Wilson Waigwa 76
3. 3:37.29 Matt Centrowitz 76
4. 3:37.96 Vincent Rono 07
5. 3:38.40 Chuck Aragon 81
6. 3:38.58 Chris Lukezic 05
7. 3:38.66 Ashley Johnson 84
8. 3:38.92 Tom Lancashire 05
9. 3:40.27 Mark Deady 87
10. 3:40.79 Jean Verster 87

[Half Miler]

Question about Jager: did he officially turn pro, or does he still have college eligibility left?

[gh]

Re: NCAA m1500: how good?

How good is the men's field in the 1500 at the NCAAs? Even without two Oregon stars, Rupp and Wheating, here is the Men's field predictions from TFN - a 3:37 guy, third last year, does not even get points. When was the last time the field was better than this going in?.....

here are some very good years for people returning from the year before (with marks in NCAA, not nec. their PRs):

1977 (results from '76)
2. Wilson Waigwa' (UTEP) Jr 3:37.26
3. Matt Centrowitz (Oregon) Jr 3:37.29
4. Steve Lacy (Wisconsin) So 3:38.52
5. Randall Markey' (Oregon) Jr 3:39.98
7. Jeff Jirele (Illinois) Jr 3:40.82
8. Tom Duits (Wn Michigan) So 3:41.21

1980 ('79 results)
1. Don Paige (Villanova) Jr 3:39.20
2. Todd Harbour (Baylor) So 3:39.27
3. Kip Koskei' (New Mexico) So 3:39.64
4. Ross Donoghue (St John’s) So 3:39.76
7. Richie Harris (Colorado St) Jr 3:40.9h
8. Paul Becklund (Arizona) Jr 3:42.9h

Of course, at the very top end how about the '69 field, which had WR holder Jim Ryun, fellow Olympian Marty Liquori and Irish Olympian Frank Murphy?

[Dave]

So, would it be an act of stupidity for Rupp to run the 1500 along with 5k and 10k?

[gh]

In Fayetteville's weather, I'd say yes.

[Dave]

In Fayetteville's weather, I'd say yes.

That makes sense.

Summoning the wrath of all that is holy in T&F, why would you put the NCAA finals in ARK? Or for that matter, anywhere south of the Mason Dixon line?
For the sake of the athletes, wouldn't it make more sense to have the meet somewhere in the North where the weather might not be so hot and humid?

[gm]

In Fayetteville's weather, I'd say yes.

That makes sense.

Summoning the wrath of all that is holy in T&F, why would you put the NCAA finals in ARK? Or for that matter, anywhere south of the Mason Dixon line?
For the sake of the athletes, wouldn't it make more sense to have the meet somewhere in the North where the weather might not be so hot and humid?

No.

[dl]

Question about Jager: did he officially turn pro, or does he still have college eligibility left?

Yes, pro.

[bruce3404]

It's going to be good. 8-)
Centro got pushed by Rupp at regionals; hope he isn't peaking too soon.
Fernandez has had a pretty easy time getting to NCAA's- might be an advantage ? On the other hand, Cento's races might have toughened him up?

Plenty of others that could take this too. Jordon McNamera might be a surprise and score higher than the form charts.

Very much agree with you about McNamara. He's a real sleeper...not necessarily to win, but to score some points. For those who aren't aware, he's been injured most of the season. His first real race was this weekend, and he managed a 5th place finish. The kid's got quite a kick and maybe the 10 days off from competition will make him stronger.